Hi again Donna. His review was rather quick, and the perspective of someone who is more new to braille, so it's worth having. I waited about a month to use the iPhone SE 2020 before I wrote my review on that. I don't believe in doing too quick of a turn around time on things, 3-4 weeks seems like enough time to spot things that are important that may be missed during a 1 week trial period. There's always that question: what's more important? A quick review that can be done immediatley, or a review that involves more testing but takes longer. I tend to favor the latter, though I certainly can see value in the former. Smiles.
Scott On 8/6/20, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hi Scott, > > Agree 100%. Not sure where he got the info about the U2, but yeah, it could > connect to other devices, though the keyboard didn't work as well as one > would wish. > > Like I said, he's obviously new to AT, but I figured I'd share the review > for anyone who wants to read it. I'm sure yours will be much more > comprehensive,. :) > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Aug 6, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Donna. >> Thanks for posting the review. I guess that gives the reader an >> overview, but it fails to answer a lot of questions a more advanced >> braille user would ask. Also, the Braille Sense u2 QWERTY could >> connect to an iPhone or other external device, so his assertion that >> it's the first QWERTY braille device to connect to external ones is >> wrong. He has a good point about beginner users of braille using it. >> There's a much less steep learning curve. >> >> Scott >> >> On 8/6/20, joseph hodge <josephlho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> At this time we are not planning on it do to licensing costs. However it >>> is >>> in the bucket for future releases. >>> >>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 12:40 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Scott, >>>> >>>> Do you know if the MLS service will be added to the Mantis Q 40 >>>> library? >>>> Thanks. >>>> Best, >>>> Les >>>> >>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> on >>>> behalf of Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 11:38:22 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: Mantis Q40? >>>> >>>> Hi all. >>>> I'm writing this with the Mantis, but I no longer have access to a >>>> Mac, so I'm not able to report on that. >>>> With iOS 13.6, it works quite well. The thing to remember is that you >>>> are using a QWERTY keyboard with this set up, so many of the things >>>> you may have learned about Perkins-style keyboards do not apply. What >>>> does apply, though, are all of the good and bad things about running a >>>> Bluetooth keyboard on iOS. You need to be familiar with how QuickNav >>>> works, when to use it, and of course the VO modifier keys. I'm writing >>>> from Windows currently, as I had to sell my Mac to help pay for my new >>>> hearing aids. >>>> One of the really neat things about the Mantis and Chameleon is the >>>> built in Wifi which allows you to download Bookshare and NFB Newsline >>>> content. Not only can you do that, but if you download daisy content >>>> from Bookshare, you can navigate by heading level. NFB Newsline only >>>> offers Daisy, but you can do the same with that service. >>>> >>>> Just some info, >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 8/6/20, joseph hodge <josephlho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi Traci, >>>>> >>>>> The Mantis supports >>>>> MacOS 15.5.5+ Catalina >>>>> iOS 13.5.1+ >>>>> >>>>> Joe >>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Traci Duncan <our4p...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Will the Mantis work with older Apple devices? My Mac is running High >>>>>> Sierra and I have iDevices running iOs 12. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Traci >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 6:23 AM, joseph hodge <josephlho...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Check your spam folder some times the message goes there but you >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> respond t a message saying you do want to join. If you have problems >>>>>>> email me at jho...@aph.org <mailto:jho...@aph.org >>>>>>> <mailto:jho...@aph.org>> with your email and I >>>>>>> will add you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joe >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 9:11 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just FYI, I tried to subscribe to this list yesterday. I have >>>>>>>> received >>>>>>>> no confirmation of my subscription, and have not received any list >>>>>>>> email. So I don’t know if this list is actually working. >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 7:51 AM, joseph hodge <josephlho...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Kerryann, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> APH does have a list you can join to learn about the Chameleon or >>>>>>>>> Mantis. Feel free to ask questions relating to the products. If >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> would like to join send an email to >>>>>>>>> mantis-chameleon-user-subscr...@tech.aph.org >>>>>>>>> <mailto:mantis-chameleon-user-subscr...@tech.aph.org >>>>>>>>> <mailto:mantis-chameleon-user-subscr...@tech.aph.org>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 2:27 AM, Kerryann Ifill >>>>>>>>>> <kerryann.if...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:kerryann.if...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:kerryann.if...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I’m very new to the group tough I’ve had a Mac for some years >>>>>>>>>> now. >>>>>>>>>> I’m about to purchase the Chameleon as I prefer compact sized >>>>>>>>>> displays >>>>>>>>>> and my old Varioultra20 is indicating that it wants to go to the >>>>>>>>>> big >>>>>>>>>> braille display bin in the sky! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I’m looking forward to learning more about t the product and will >>>>>>>>>> hopefully love this unit as much as my other 2 displays. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> Kerry >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 5 Aug 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tracy, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I hear you! I've always loved the idea of having a braille >>>>>>>>>>> display >>>>>>>>>>> with a qwerty keyboard to use with my phone or iPad >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not thrilled about the price, but I don't think you can get 40 >>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>> for less. The Focus is actually $500 more. >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Traci Duncan <our4p...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:our4p...@gmail.com <mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't helpful, but doesn’t that display look awesome. >>>>>>>>>>>> *Laughs >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> $2500 though, wow! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I love the idea of a qwerty keyboard with braille reading. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Traci >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 12:10 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone tried this display with either Mac or IOS? 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