As I stated in my earlier post, Catalina has been out for a year, and is really quite stable for the most part. For anyone not already on Catalina, I would suggest upgrading to Catalina, and then give it awhile before upgrading to Big Sur. This way you will give the bug-hunters awhile to discover any issues, and Apple an opportunity to respond with a fix before you jump in head first. This is what I always do when a new version of the OS is released. I always wait until the point 1 or point 2 version before taking the jump on my primary Mac.
- Brad - On Nov 11, 2020, at 09:14, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> wrote: Adding to this thread…I just learned that TurboTax for 2020 is the last year they will make the program useable on Mojave or older. Tax year 2021 version requires Catalina or higher to work. So there’s the opposite concern over changing or not changing. Dave Carlson Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer > On Nov 11, 2020, at 12:01 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hello all. I'll address Pete's question first. Catalina and up drop support > for 32 bit apps. Therefore if you want to upgrade to either Catalina or Big > Sur, I'd see if the apps you're using have a 64-bit version before taking the > plunge. > As for the question of whether or not you should upgrade to Big Sur, > Voiceover doesn't have any show stopping bugs that I can see. There might be > some minor annoyances here and there, but all in all it's pretty stable. > Other reasons why you should upgrade that I can think of are you'll get the > new security patches that come with the OS, and if you're thinking of getting > one of the new silicon based Macs, they'll come with Big Sur out of the box. > So you should really get familiarized with the new features and changes > before you get your new Mac. > > Regards, > Shawn, > Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air > > Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility > Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with > your contact information and I'll happily add you. > > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > >> On Nov 11, 2020, at 1:02 AM, 'user' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Big Sur runs on the following Macs: >> • MacBook: Early 2015 or newer. >> • MacBook Air: Mid 2013 or newer. >> • MacBook Pro: Late 2013 or newer. >> • Mac Mini: Late 2014 or newer. >> • iMac: Mid 2014 or newer. >> • iMac Pro. >> • Mac Pro: Late 2013 or newer. >> >> Cheers Trevor >> >>> On 10 Nov 2020, at 19:50, Pete De Vasto <pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Lorie, you and I are in the exact same position, so I’ll be interested in >>> what others say as well because I, too, am comfortable with I have now. I >>> so far can do everything I want to, and since I’m retired I’m not in a work >>> situation where I would depend on it more than I am now. >>> >>> Pete De Vasto >>> >>>> On Nov 10, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Lorie McCloud <lorice...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> what would you reommend for a Mac mini that I got at the very end of 2014? >>>> I'm currently running Mojave and am comfortable with it but I don't want >>>> to lag too far behind unless my hardware has trouble going there. >>>> >>>> Lorie >>>> >>>>> On Nov 10, 2020, at 11:31 AM, maurice Mines <maur...@maurice-amines.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I would say the question was how old is the hardware? If you're hardware >>>>> it's older than five years don't upgrade. If it is new say 2018 to >>>>> present, send certainly upgrade upgrade in the operating system it's a >>>>> good idea at all times unless there's some extreme reason why you should >>>>> not remember the bad guys out there are looking for machines with all >>>>> their operating systems a.k.a. machines point security holes. In other >>>>> words the bad guys look for is running old operating system so that they >>>>> can fine with compromise them. Machines running new operating system's, >>>>> Meaning current operating systems are much harder to be compromised by >>>>> the bad guys. In other words long story short I always upgrade. For that >>>>> very specific reason. Ausel accessibility chance to follow the current >>>>> operating system. >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely Maurice Mines. >>>>> Please note, the above text has been dictated to the computer, using >>>>> apples built-in dictation software. Please excuse any errors that are in >>>>> the above text. If there's something that I've written above that you >>>>> don't understand, please ask me what my original intent was? I make every >>>>> effort to clear up any misunderstandings that may arise from the above >>>>> text. Thank you very much for reading this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 10, 2020, at 16:47, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>>> Granted I am not personally facing the issue, but my general advice is >>>>>> to consider what you cannot do now that you desire doing. or what might >>>>>> be done with greater ease? >>>>>> If upgrading will do things better, without breaking things that work, >>>>>> then moving to something equally stable makes sense. If not? And the >>>>>> next os might bring you more? then wait. >>>>>> Just be certain you are gaining by making the move. >>>>>> best, >>>>>> Kare >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2020, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Brad. That's my leaning, but I thought that before I did, I'd >>>>>>> see what others think. >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Catalina is extremely stable. >>>>>>>> I would recommend that you upgrade to Catalina, and wait a while on >>>>>>>> Big Sur. Give it some time and see how it works out. Then maybe >>>>>>>> upgrade to it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Brad - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2020, at 07:28, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would love to hear from any of you who are running the Beta of the >>>>>>>> new MacOS, without violating disclosure, of course. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’m still running High Sierra, in part out of laziness, and in part >>>>>>>> because work is crazy busy. 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