Hi, Brad, Keyboard commander is disabled, but still no joy. Cheers, Donna
> On Nov 14, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net> wrote: > > I suggest tht you turn off Keyboard commander and see if these issues go away. > > - Brad - > > > On Nov 14, 2020, at 13:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > Hi Pete, > > I do have keyboard commander enabled, and have tried both option keys. These > commands are not keyboard commander commands, I think they are standard Mac > commands. > > The other thing I just figured out is that entering accented letters with > Option key no longer works. This is potentially serious, as I write a lot in > Spanish. :( > > I didn't upgrade to Big Sur yet, but I'm thinking about it in the hope that > it fixes the issue. > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Nov 14, 2020, at 1:12 PM, Pete De Vasto <pdevasto0...@gmail.com >> <mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Donna, >> >> Have you tried both the right and left option keys? And do you have Keyboard >> Commander enabled? I may be off track here, but in VO Utilities, under >> Commanders, with Keyboard Commander enabled, you get to choose which option >> key is used for what you want to do. Maybe you had this set up in Keyboard >> Commander, and if you just upgraded your computer I’m wondering if something >> may have gotten lost. Just a thought. >> >> Pete De Vasto >> >>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 11:02 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Nope, that doesn't work either. this is so strange. And it doesn't look >>> like the key is broken, because I can use it for other things like VO >>> commands. >>> cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> >>>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net >>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Try using Option + Left/Right arrow keys along with the Shift key to >>>> highlight text. >>>> >>>> - Brad - >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 10:45, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well, this is weird. Option plus left-right arrow does work when reading >>>> text, but not when editing. So, it worked just fine when I was reading >>>> your message, but is not working as I type my reply. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net >>>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have never used CTRL + Backspace to delete words, but find that using >>>>> Option + Backspace will do this. >>>>> I have always used Option + Left/Right arrow keys to navigate by single >>>>> words, and find that this still works, though navigation behavior is not >>>>> the same in all applications. >>>>> I am running macOS Catalina 10.15.7, with all current updates installed. >>>>> >>>>> - Brad - >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 09:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Slight correction. Option key does work, Control does not. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com >>>>>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yesterday I was prompted to install software updates. Since then, I can >>>>>> no longer use CTRL-backspace to delete words, nor can I use Option >>>>>> Backspace to navigate by word. The Control and option keys do work for >>>>>> everything else. Were these keystrokes removed? I'm finding navigating >>>>>> and editing text very painstaking without them. I have rebooted my mac >>>>>> several times, but that has not fixed the issue. 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