Things may work differently on the Intel Macs as opposed to the new M1 Macs, but Mike I am still able to open an app from the dock with VO+spacebar. I am unable to access the menu from the dock to get to the open command.
The VO command does open the app, however. I agree that there are some serious bug issues, but I do believe we have to try and move forward and just keep pressure on Apple to fix the problems. Larry W. Honaker kc8...@icloud.com Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. (Psalm 119:105 KJV) > On Dec 23, 2020, at 10:21 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: > > So, after playing with the new operating system a bit more, I'm going to > stick with it rather than going back to Catalina although I still think that > Apple has taken several steps backward with this new OS. I figure there's no > point going back to an old operating system even if it's a bit easier for > some things. > I do hope Apple fixes the bug with using the dock, but I have an acceptable > work around for that. I prefer not to open the applications folder every time > I want to open an app which is what I used the dock for. Since this is > currently not possible, I have made aliases for the applications I use the > most and put them on my desktop. > Regarding the messages application, I think I have found what I would > consider to be a major voiceover bug and it's one reason I was having so much > trouble with the app. Voiceover has a setting that determines how groups are > handled, I usually use the bookend groups option since this eliminates the > need to interact with items as much. This setting does not currently work > with the messages app. Basically the new messages app has two sections, the > conversations list and to the right of that is the area where the selected > conversation is displayed. If you use one of the other voiceover group > settings besides standard, once you move in to one of these areas, voiceover > will get stuck there and you cannot get out of this section and go to the > other one. Since I usually use the bookend groups setting, I created an > activity for the messages app that switches to the standard setting instead. > Unlike the messages app in Catalina, you can no longer use just the arrow > keys to select a conversation, you must interact with the conversations list > and use voiceover to select the conversation you want. Also, when opening the > context menu for a conversation, you must use the voiceover up and down > commands to move through the menu, using the regular arrow keys will not work. > I've also found an odd issue with the notification center, in previous > operating systems, when an application requested to use the notification > center, the prompt would appear and there were buttons to allow or deny the > request. With Big Sur, either those buttons do not appear or Voiceover does > not see them. You have to press VO+command+space to open the actions menu to > respond to the notification. > I really hope Apple fixes some of these issues, I would consider some of them > to be major. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3ab697a4.3364.4694.b277.4bcb483b4776%40samobile.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/ADC0320D-56CA-4285-9116-A87F9A8D51B1%40icloud.com.
