The only way I was able to change the display sleep value in battery preferences and get it to stick was to boot into safe mode and do it from there. I’ve never had to do that before.
> On Jun 8, 2021, at 4:19 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > There usually is not a lock in this pane, but maybe take a look down near the > bottom of this pane and see if there’s the lock to unlock in order to make > changes. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Jun 8, 2021, at 3:10 PM, Matthew Janusauskas <mjanusaus...@gmail.com >> <mailto:mjanusaus...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> Thanks for the confirmation of the bug and advice on this. I’ve sent a >> report via Feedback Assistant. >> Just now when trying to follow your suggestions I’m finding the controls in >> the battery preferences all to be dimmed out. A restart didn’t make a >> difference either. Any other suggestions to try? >> >> Matthew >> >> >>> On Jun 7, 2021, at 12:13 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Yes, that is a bug. I believe that I’ve reported it, although multiple >>> reports is a good thing and often makes sure that things are addressed >>> sooner. In the meantime, I will usually use the physical trackpad to >>> accomplish this. >>> >>> • using VO, navigate to the slider. >>> • interact with it. >>> • press VO-cmd-f5 to route the mouse to the VO location. >>> • click the trackpad once and it should announce 50%. This is too long in >>> most cases. >>> • click and hold and drag to the left very slowly and in small amounts. VO >>> will announce the percentage. 20% is about 10 minutes and 50% is about 35 >>> minutes. Normally, when on battery power, I wouldn’t recommend going above >>> 30%. You can go longer when on power if you choose. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Jamf Certified Tech >>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>> Apple Teacher >>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>>> On Jun 6, 2021, at 12:36 PM, Matthew Janusauskas <mjanusaus...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:mjanusaus...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Tim, >>>> >>>> I’ve noticed when trying to change the sleep timeout setting in battery >>>> preferences on an M1 MacBook Pro the slider value I set doesn’t tick and >>>> reverts to the minimum value. Any ideas on how to fix that? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Matthew >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 12:36 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Well, that’s odd. That usually happens when an MDM, or some sort of >>>>> Parental Controls has limited your access. I wouldn’t think that that is >>>>> the case here. >>>>> >>>>> Oh well, how about we come from another direction. In System >>>>> Preferences, Desktop & Screen Saver, under the Screen Saver tab, make >>>>> sure that the Screen Saver is set to some time further away, like 30 >>>>> minutes to an hour. Also, in system Preferences, Battery, we’ll select >>>>> Battery so we can check its settings. Make sure that it doesn’t go to >>>>> sleep for 15 to 20 minutes when on battery and even longer when on power. >>>>> >>>>> Later… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Caitlyn Furness <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, exactly. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for all your help! >>>>>> >>>>>> Cait >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 12:28 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, you went to system Preferences, Security & Privacy, pressed the >>>>>>> Lock button, entered your password, pressed the Advanced button and the >>>>>>> checkbox for logging out after so much time was dimmed? Is that where >>>>>>> you went and what you are saying is dimmed? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Caitlyn Furness >>>>>>>> <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com <mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, the choice for login options in the advanced tab was dimmed.. I >>>>>>>> am really stumped! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cait >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 12:12 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you mean that the Advanced button is dimmed, then you need to >>>>>>>>> first click on the Lock button, then enter your password to unlock >>>>>>>>> the lock. Once it is unlocked, the Advanced button should no longer >>>>>>>>> be dimmed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Caitlyn Furness >>>>>>>>>> <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com <mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It’s dimmed out.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cait >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 11:13 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In that same Security & Privacy window, unlock the lock, then press >>>>>>>>>>> the Advanced button. Check if it is set to logout after a certain >>>>>>>>>>> amount of inactivity. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Caitlyn Furness >>>>>>>>>>>> <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com <mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That button was unchecked.. not sure what to do from here.. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>> Caitlyn from rainy Ontario >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 10:57 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you have the "Require password after sleep or >>>>>>>>>>>>> screen saver checkbox” checked. You can find this in System >>>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences, Security & Privacy, in under the General tab. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 8:26 AM, Caitlyn Furness >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com <mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tim! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s happening about every 5 mins after logging in. If I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing email it doesn’t interrupt, but if I am listening to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> music, for example, it definitely does interrupt. Totally >>>>>>>>>>>>>> annoying! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is happening across all users on this laptop.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cait >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How often is this happening? That is, every minute or so right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after I get logged in, or after about 5 minutes, 10 minutes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after I open the lid of the laptop? Just a bit more detail to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> figure out the best way forward. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 8:14 AM, Caitlyn Furness >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com <mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am having issues on my Mac.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, the login window for the current user keeps popping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up. This is incredibly annoying! How can I stop this from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Running Big Sur on a late 2013 MacBook Air. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cait >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac Visionaries list. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this list, or if you feel that a member's post is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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