All of these assistants will always have to go to the cloud to get something. The main problem I see is that some of the older demographic, who prefer a device that has buttons for doing things, have a great deal of trouble adjusting to a touch screen environment. These people would be satisfied with something resembling either a candy bar or flip phone. If they could use a telephone keypad and get voice feedback they would be happy. I don't think any of the major carriors in canada cary such a phone.
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 30, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Rebecca Skipper <skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Well, until IOS15 Siri had to go to the cloud to get info so I believe > privacy compromises were made there to. > I wonder if the ability to use Siri offline means that certain features were > removed. > This just occurred to me. > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 11:05 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features > Used by Low Vision and Blind Users > > One thing to keep in mind, though, Rebecca, is that some of us choose not to > use Alexa or Google for privacy reasons. If that’s the case for his clients, > your solution would not work. > Donna > >> On Sep 30, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Rebecca Skipper <skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I understand where you are coming from, but would it be possible to use the >> double tap feature to open up something like Alexa or the Google Assistant >> to carry out certain commands and teach this to clients as a backup to Siri? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On >> Behalf Of doug.law...@gmail.com >> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 9:53 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features >> Used by Low Vision and Blind Users >> >> I also prefer to use a keyboard as well. I only use Siri for the most simple >> of tasks such as a fast way to open an application or using it on the Apple >> watch to get my location if I realized I passed a street I was supposed to >> cross. So I'm not a Siri expert by any stretch of the imagination. >> Having said that, I agree these features need to be available for a >> demographic that need them. >> >> I really enjoy this discussion. >> >> Best, >> Doug >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Rebecca Skipper <skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I appreciate your perspective, and I prefer to use a keyboard over touch >>> screen when I can. >>> The population of people you work with who depend on these features are the >>> ones being impacted by this. >>> Apple is not sending a good message here. >>> Siri has never been one of my favorite digital assistants though. >>> There is too much emphasis on cameras and not enough stability in software >>> as far as I'm concerned i.e. taking out features after advertising them. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On >>> Behalf Of doug.law...@gmail.com >>> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 8:26 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features >>> Used by Low Vision and Blind Users >>> >>> As the president of the CFB, I see a lot of older people who use these >>> features. I understand that we should all do our best to learn the iOs >>> interface but we also have to understand that a lot of older people just >>> want to get the basics done. Even accomlishing the basics on these >>> devices can be quite a difficult task for many users. >>> A prime example is writing in braille screen input′ A lot of people are >>> just simply not going to get that far. Even simple tasks such as learning >>> the concept of singgle and double tapping is a major learning curve for a >>> lot of this demographic >>> >>> . >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Rebecca Skipper <skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks for sharing this article. >>>> I have mixed views on this . >>>> On the one hand, I think it is important to learn Apple's native user >>>> interface, but on the other hand it is very frustrating to lose Siri >>>> features that people depend on. >>>> Does the removal of certain Siri features impact sighted users as well or >>>> just the visually impaired? >>>> It doesn't sound like a Voiceover bug to me. >>>> This hurts Apple's reputation as a trend setter in accessibility. >>>> The good news is that if you have an Apple Homepod Mini you can still play >>>> voicemails. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On >>>> Behalf Of dan d. >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 7:46 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features >>>> Used by Low Vision and Blind Users >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.macrumors.com/2021/09/29/siri-changes-features-removed/ >>>> -- >>>> ent- >>>> XR >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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