K don’t have an iPad, but I’m curious as to whether a Keyboard user could use VO J to navigate through containers on an iPad?
> On Aug 20, 2022, at 12:37, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hi KerryAnn, > > Mail is definitely one of those things that’s more efficient on the Mac. > Remember that the iPad uses containers, so you’ll have one thing, for example > your message list, in one, and then the currently open message in another. > Honestly, when I’m working in Mail, I often use a combination of the keyboard > and just touching the screen if I want to move quickly from one container to > another. > > I hope that helps. If you want to let us know specifically what your > problems are in Mail and Pages, we can probably help you a little better. > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Aug 20, 2022, at 11:51 AM, Kerryann Ifill <kerryann.if...@gmail.com >> <mailto:kerryann.if...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi thank so much! i have a brailliant 20 and a focus 40. i also purchased >> the apple smart keyboard. >> My chief challenge is using the mail app, mastering that is driving me up >> the creek in sane. >> I'll give it a further look through and thanks! >> Pages is another area of concern. >> Will keep you posted. >> Thanks again >> >> Kerryann F. Ifill >> >>> On 20 Aug 2022, at 10:57 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi KerryAnn, >>> >>> If you are thinking your iPad will replace your Mac, I assume you’re >>> thinking you’ll use it with an external keyboard? Here is a link to some >>> info about that: >>> https://support.apple.com/guide/ipad/use-voiceover-with-an-apple-external-keyboard-ipad9a246749/ipados >>> >>> <https://support.apple.com/guide/ipad/use-voiceover-with-an-apple-external-keyboard-ipad9a246749/ipados> >>> >>> Keep in mind, though, that there’s a fair amount of variation among >>> different keyboards, so commands and options may vary, depending on your >>> keyboard. If you are a braille user, I highly recommend the Mantis from >>> APH as a good qwerty keyboard/display combo. If you prefer Perkins style >>> input, here is an AppleVis link discussing that: >>> https://www.applevis.com/guides/using-braille-display-ios-introduction >>> <https://www.applevis.com/guides/using-braille-display-ios-introduction> >>> I also think that Kliph, who is on this list, has some resources for that, >>> so hopefully he can respond to your question, too. If none of this >>> information is what you’re looking for, you might give us more details >>> about what you are having trouble with. >>> >>> FWIW, I have both an iPad and a MacBook Air. I love my iPad, and I use it >>> a lot. But I find the Mac to be far more efficient. I can generally get >>> things done more quickly and easily on the Mac. Personally, and of course >>> this is subjective, if I had to choose one or the other, I’d choose the Mac. >>> Good luck, >>> Donna >>> >>>> On Aug 20, 2022, at 9:23 AM, Kerryann F. Ifill <kerryann.if...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:kerryann.if...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> I've recently had to retire my mac from active service and in the interim >>>> i'm trying ot decide betwee getting a new mac or an ipad. 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