All fantastic points. Again, I absolutely agree. I did a poor job of expressing my suggestion. I think it’s important, very important for blind people to have many different tools in their toolbox. I wouldn’t suggest anyone rely on solely using a Mac. I use a Mac, windows computer, iPhone. I also use two screen readers on windows. None of the options I use can get the job done every time. It’s good to have basic computer skills on different platforms and using different screen readers. still, sometimes I need sided assistance. as you said, reporting is the best way to improve. I find many developers willing to change if they only knew what our community needs were. Honestly, I need to report more. There’s just so many accessibility issues out there that I get lazy sometimes. Smiles. Rod On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 4:35 PM Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
> would love to see them manage that with my non-windows setup smiles. > we get there as You say, by informing those illustrating the behavior > that the captcha is not inclusive..speaking personally. > does not diminish the value for those such services provides, while > leading to more inclusion generally, since captcha is a problem for many > populations. > > > > On Mon, 5 Sep 2022, Rod skene wrote: > > > Karen, I agree with your point completely, but unfortunately, there is a > > need for services like AIRA and be my eyes still. Maybe, one day we’ll > get > > there, but we haven’t gotten there yet. Also, AIRA can provide service > > directly to your PC. No Smart phone needed. > > Rod > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 3:24 PM Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> > > wrote: > > > >> what concerns me about this option is the assumption that *everyone* > with > >> a comparative print challenge can automatically find a *someone* to be > >> the non-challenged solution here. > >> If you do not have a smartphone, then what? > >> to be sure, i firmly feel this service is wonderful, for those who can > >> access it of course. > >> for me, speaking personally, reaching for such a solution feeds the > >> "cannot someone else do this for you?" thinking of many outside of > >> various challenge experiences. > >> Just my take, > >> Karen > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, 5 Sep 2022, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries wrote: > >> > >>> If you have a smartphone, you could get sighted help via the Be My Eyes > >> app > >>> Harry > >>> > >>>> On 5 Sep 2022, at 16:22, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries < > >> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> Is there a way to deal with captchas in Safari? 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