Hi Marlene, I just want to second Janet’s advice. I got my first Mac in 2009 about a month after getting the iPhone 3GS. There were a couple of months that I mostly just wanted to throw my Mac off the roof of a tall building and watch it shatter. Now, I love it. It just takes time, a lot of patience, and support, which you will have on this list..
Janet’s suggestions for resources are excellent. In addition, Macfortheblind.com <http://macfortheblind.com/> is an excellent resource, and I think the owner of that site is til on this list. Also, remember that the menu system is your friend. Of course keyboard shortcuts are faster, but until you learn them, bringing up the menu with VO-M will give you access to most commands. You can also bring up a context menu by pressing VO-M twice. When I say VO, I’m referring to what are called the VO keys, which are option-Control. You can also bring up keyboard help if you need it by pressing VO-K. You can then close keyboard help by pressing Escape. I hope this helps. This is a very helpful list, so don’t be afraid to post any questions here. Cheers, Donna > On Dec 3, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Janet Ingber <janet.ing...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Marlene, > Just take it slow. Do you still have your PC hooked up? I’ve written several > books on the Mac operating systems. There’s also a tremendous amount of > information on www.applevis.com. > AppleVis is a great web site and Mac Visionaries is a great email list. > > No question is stupid. We’ve all been there. > > Best. > Janet > > > > >> On Dec 3, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Marlene Kramer <marlenebiologis...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> hi listers, I am new to this list, and new to MacBook. I have transition >> from the PC/jaws approach. >> I have a MacBook, running Ventura. >> I have eight years of experience with the iOS version of voiceover, but I’m >> finding the MacBook version of voice over a little more challenging. I have >> made some good initial progress, but realize I have a steep learning curve >> ahead of me. >> I would very much appreciate learning from those of you with experience on >> the MacBook, your recommended strategies for approaching this learning >> process. No advice is too simple. >> Thanks in advance. Marlene. >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BE0CC532-8F96-4EDB-9197-D1328BD24DFB%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/97744737-6D68-4CE7-8A3D-9EBB6D97D7C4%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/670EC9EB-E046-4ADA-93EC-73286037CE36%40me.com.
