Ok, I think I’ve somewhat managed to get the installation process started, 
after some playing around and having to allow my system settings access to my 
accessibility settings and turning the switch on to VMware Fusion, which I had 
no idea about.  So I’ve allowed VMware access to everything it’s popped up so 
far, and now I’m at some weird window that’s saying something about “enter 
unity” which is dimmed, but when I try to move around, I get the message 
“VMware has no windows.” Can someone please explain this?

> On Dec 8, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Sheri Byrne <sh...@sheribyrne.com> wrote:
> 
> Additionally, as a VMware accessibility team employee if you have issues I’ll 
> make sure you get help :)
> 
> Sheri
> 
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>> On Dec 8, 2022, at 9:41 AM, Maurice A. mines <maur...@maurice-amines.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi NVDA works  vary  well  under  Vm Ware Fusion.  I don’t  think that  
>> Virtual Box  is  usable by  a blind  user.
>> 
>> Maurice Mines.
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2022, at 16:32, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jessica,
>>> I'm replying to you on list so someone else can assist with how to deal 
>>> with NVDA.  Good luck!
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>>> On 12/8/2022 8:12 AM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>>>> Ok, I’m sure everyone is probably tired of hearing about this, but wanted 
>>>> to give a heads-up.  I managed to finally find a direct link to download 
>>>> the 64-bit ISO file from Microsoft, and think I managed to locate the 
>>>> right file regarding VMware Fusion, considering at the moment, I’m just 
>>>> wanting to run everything in trial mode just to see how it does.  I also 
>>>> have downloaded NVDA and just have everything just sitting in my downloads 
>>>> folder.
>>>> So at this point, my question is, after I start the installation process 
>>>> and I eventually get to the point where there’s no longer speech, how do I 
>>>> go about installing NVDA, or would I be better off launching team viewer, 
>>>> and having an Aira agent help me do the remainder?
>>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 6:29 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Jessica,
>>>>> Maybe I should first suggest another option. I took a quick look at 
>>>>> Windows 11 on Amazon. One option is to buy for $139 and download then you 
>>>>> can out it on a thumb drive though I don't know how big it is. Or, buy a 
>>>>> PC. I saw an HP model for $189. If you want to look into getting a PC, 
>>>>> there are other brands too like Dell.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For NVDA here is the web site.  It will give you the download button with 
>>>>> the "no donation" button already selected.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is the VMware site.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/downloads/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_fusion/13_0
>>>>> 
>>>>> VMware Fusion Player 13 is the latest. If you choose to go this route and 
>>>>> not a PC, you can install this using Voiceover. You can run it and look 
>>>>> at its settings etc. Once you get a Windows ISO (image file) you can 
>>>>> install it into Fusion.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You might want some sihted help after this to put the NVDA file on the 
>>>>> Windows desktop. When you clock it, it will come up talking.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope this helps!
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>>>> My e-Mail:
>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/5/2022 12:36 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>>>>>> I will be using NVDA, due to the fact that I unfortunately can’t afford 
>>>>>> a license for Jaws, and using it in 40-minute mode too attempt to do 
>>>>>> this training material isn’t going to work.
>>>>>> Can you please send me a direct link to download these ISO files?   I’ve 
>>>>>> attempted to do several searches to obtain them, and found a site that I 
>>>>>> thought led to where two find them along with instructions, but is 
>>>>>> taking me in circles when it comes to downloading then.
>>>>>> The site I ended up at was something called Minitool.com 
>>>>>> <http://Minitool.com>, that supposedly redirects you to where to 
>>>>>> download them, but just seems to take me to more news articles.
>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2022, at 12:49 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jessica,
>>>>>>> A quick note. If you want to use NVDA which is free, give me some time 
>>>>>>> to try something. In the meantime, ALL the VMware setup can be done 
>>>>>>> with Voiceover. So if you go ahead and get a Windows ISO, you're on 
>>>>>>> your way.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>>>>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>>>>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>>>>>> My e-Mail:
>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 12/2/2022 2:28 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ok, that’s what I was afraid of, and to be honest, I think I need 
>>>>>>>> whoever is willing to please contact me off list.  I have absolutely 
>>>>>>>> no idea how to even get this started, have never done this before, so 
>>>>>>>> I’m going to need some guidance, whether we do a team viewer session, 
>>>>>>>> back and forth e-mail’s, or exchange numbers and stay on the phone as 
>>>>>>>> long as one of us is able; I’m open to any of these.
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2022, at 12:45 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> VMWare is definitely the superior product. However, Voiceover won’t 
>>>>>>>>> do anything once you are inside the virtual session. You would have 
>>>>>>>>> to install NVDA or JAWS  inside the VMWare session in order to make 
>>>>>>>>> windows fully accessible. Btw, I don’t trust narrator to be more than 
>>>>>>>>> basic system accessibility only, hence my suggestions for superior 
>>>>>>>>> screen readers.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Eric
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com><mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I’m still looking into installing Windows on my Mac, in order to 
>>>>>>>>>> attempt to finish my training materials throughdhs.org 
>>>>>>>>>> <http://dhs.org/><http://dhs.org/ <http://dhs.org/>>, which has come 
>>>>>>>>>> to a halt,, due to the fact that in order to use the testing tools 
>>>>>>>>>> they provide, they’re only available for the Windows platform. My 
>>>>>>>>>> supervisor told me about something called Vertualbox, which is free 
>>>>>>>>>> to install Windows on, as opposed to VMware Fusion, but he had no 
>>>>>>>>>> idea if it was usable with Voiceover.  Can anyone with experience 
>>>>>>>>>> with either/or please give me some tips on how to run them?
>>>>>>>>>> I don’t currently own a copy of Windows, so will have to find out 
>>>>>>>>>> how to obtain everything/get things up and running.
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