Ah, you’re right. Sorry. Like I said, it’s been years since I’ve used either, because I find the problems they create are more trouble than they’re worth. Cheers, Donna
> On Jan 26, 2023, at 10:49 AM, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I don’t think Quick Nav is what you are thinking it is. Quick Nav is used on > web pages for single-letter navigation. VO lock is invoked with VO+semicolon. > > Dave Carlson > Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Woodworker, Musician > dgcarlson0...@gmail.com > > > > > On Jan 26, 2023, at 7:27 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > QuickNav locks the VO keys on, so you only have to press the modifier key. > In my experience, it creates havoc, so I don’t use it, though to be fair, I > haven’t tried to use it in several years, so that may have changed. But you > turn it on by pressing the left and right arrow keys together. You will hear > VO say QuickNav on if it is activated. It’s a toggle, so to turn it off, > just press the left and right arrow keys again. > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Jan 26, 2023, at 9:17 AM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> what is qucik nav? Where would I go to make the vo keys capslock? >> >> On 1/26/23, Suzanne Erb <suze...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> Try using the Caps Lock for VOkey. Also try using qucik nav. >>> This simplifies things immensely. >>> Suzanne >>> >>>> On Jan 26, 2023, at 10:04, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I agree about the VO keys. Many things on the Mac require the use of >>>> several keys at once that on Windows can be accomplished with just one or >>>> two keys. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>>> On Jan 26, 2023, at 8:45 AM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> the vo keys drive me nuts. I mean every time I have had a mac before >>>>> now using so many keys for certain things have made me go crazy, but >>>>> part of that is because I don't know all the little tricks around all >>>>> of that. Logic and work is one of the reasons I have decided to get >>>>> another Mac Book Pro. OH yeah and audio hijack sounds amazing, and I >>>>> can't for get wanting to try out Xcode. I will just have to force >>>>> myself to use the Macbook more than my windows pc for a couple weeks. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/26/23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>> I do use both. I teach online, and I do prefer to do most of my >>>>>> teaching >>>>>> stuff on the PC. However, to be fair, I’m not sure whether my feeling >>>>>> that >>>>>> that is easier is because it really is easier, or because it’s habit and >>>>>> I >>>>>> have good muscle memory for it. On the other hand, I prefer to do most >>>>>> media related stuff on my Mac. >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 26, 2023, at 6:27 AM, Bill Gallik <wfgal...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I personally have not noticed any degradation of accessibility on the >>>>>>> MacOS platforms. I suspect that the old adage “Familiarity breeds >>>>>>> contempt” may be at play here! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Furthermore, unless someone is using both MacOS with VoiceOver and >>>>>>> MS-Windows with JAWS (or an alternative screen reader) what would be >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> basis of comparison anyway? >>>>>>> ************ >>>>>>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin >>>>>>> - “The absence of alternatives” >>>>>>> - “clears the mind marvelously.” >>>>>>> - Henry Kissinger >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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