Thanks for sharing this now to pop this into a txt file for later.
This will help so so much. I have a long way to go but at least this
puts me on the right path.

On 2/2/23, Fazil M. <mfa...@outlook.com> wrote:
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> A Complete List of VoiceOver Keyboard Shortcuts Available on macOS
>
>
> Submitted by Nicholas on Saturday, January 2, 2021.
>
> Last modified
>
> Thursday, October 28, 2021
>
>
>
> Compiled below is a rearrangement of Apple’s published VoiceOver key
> commands charts, edited/confirmed for macOS Monterey.
>
> Editor’s note: VO Key Commands are arranged by Levels. Press and hold the
> keys below while typing any other key.
>
> Level One: Press Control-Option.
>
> Level Two: Press Control-Option-Shift.
>
> Level Three: Press Control-Option-Command.
>
> Level Four: Press Control-Option-Command-Shift.
>
> A “Combined Listing” has been provided at the end of this document. This
> offers an arrangement by keypress, with all Control keys and notes included,
> per key.
>
> Except for the Combined List which is my own arrangement, all information is
> presented as true as possible to Apple’s original materials.
>
> -End of Editor’s note.
>
> All information provided is copyright Apple, Inc. All rights reserved.
>
>
> Level One. With VO keys (Control-Option) pressed
>
>
> Function Keys Row (laptops may include fn key)
>
>
> Esc, cancel mode.
>
> f1, application summary (Note, press twice to open the Application
> Chooser).
>
> f2, window summary (Note, press twice to open the Window Chooser).
>
> f3, describe item in VoiceOver cursor.
>
> f4, describe item in keyboard focus.
>
> f5, describe item in mouse pointer (Note, press two or three times to hear
> the mouse location differently).
>
> f6, describe selected item.
>
> f7, not mapped.
>
> f8, VoiceOver Utility.
>
> f9, not mapped.
>
> f10, tile visuals.
>
> f11, not mapped.
>
> f12, not mapped.
>
>
> Number Keys Row
>
>
> Accent, start moving window, (Esc to stop).
>
> 1 through 0, jump to Hot Spot.
>
> (dash/minus), decrease system volume.
>
> = (equals), increase system volume.
>
> Delete, delete ruler marker (in TextEdit).
>
>
> Tab Key Row
>
>
> Tab, ignore next key press.
>
> q, toggle single-key Quick Nav.
>
> w, read word (Note, press two or three times to spell a word in different
> ways).
>
> e, not mapped.
>
> r, read row header description (Note, press twice to read the contents of a
> table row from the VoiceOver cursor to the end of the row).
>
> t, text attributes.
>
> y, not mapped.
>
> u, VoiceOver Rotor.
>
> i, Item Chooser.
>
> o, open Notification Center.
>
> p, read paragraph.
>
> [ (left bracket), move to previous Hot Spot.
>
> ] (right bracket), move to next Hot Spot.
>
> \ (backslash), open or close disclosure triangle.
>
>
> Caps Lock Key Row
>
>
> caps lock, pressed can be substitute for VO keys.
>
> a, read all. Reads contents of VO cursor (Note, when interacting with text,
> reads from the VoiceOver cursor to bottom of text).
>
> s, read current sentence.
>
> d, go to Dock.
>
> f, find text.
>
> g, find next searched text.
>
> h, VoiceOver help menu (Note, press twice to open the Commands menu).
>
> j, jump to linked item.
>
> k, Live keyboard help (practice).
>
> l, read line.
>
> ; (semi-colon), lock or unlock VoiceOver keys.
>
> ’ (apostrophe), not mapped.
>
> Return, When in text area, start selection mode, press again to stop
> selecting.
>
>
> Shift Key Row
>
>
> z, read last phrase.
>
> x, Activity Chooser (Note, press twice to switch to the previous activity).
>
> c, read character or column header (Note, press twice to; in text - hear
> character phonetically. in tables - hear the contents of a column from the
> VoiceOver cursor to the bottom of the column).
>
> v, verbosity rotor.
>
> b, read from top to VoiceOver cursor.
>
> n, open Notifications menu with list of current Notifications (Note, press
> twice to open announcements menu with list of Voiceover announcements).
>
> m, menu bar (Note, press twice to jump to the status menu in the menu bar).
>
> , (comma), mark item to drag and drop.
>
> . (period), drop item on VoiceOver cursor.
>
> / (slash), create custom label.
>
>
> Control Key Row
>
>
> Spacebar, perform default action for selected item.
>
> Arrow keys, in Finder: moves up, down, right or left to next item. In text,
> up/down moves to previous or next line, right/left, moves to next or
> previous word. In web, right/left moves to next or previous element, up/down
> does nothing. The Home and End keys move to the top or bottom of the area
> (such as a window or text area) where the VoiceOver cursor is located,
> scrolling if necessary. Page Up and Page Down read the previous and next
> page, respectively. On portable computers, you may need to press the Fn key
> with the arrow keys for Home, End, Page Up, and Page Down.
>
>
> Level Two. With Control-Option-shift or Capslock-Shift pressed
>
>
> Function Keys Row (laptops may include fn key)
>
>
> Esc, not mapped.
>
> f1, not mapped.
>
> f2, move window to front.
>
> f3, toggle cursor tracking.
>
> f4, move VoiceOver cursor to keyboard focus.
>
> f5, move VoiceOver cursor to mouse pointer.
>
> f6, not mapped.
>
> f7, not mapped.
>
> f8, not mapped.
>
> f9, resize or move braille panel (Note, press this command again to choose
> between move or resize).
>
> f10, resize or move caption panel (Note, press this command again to choose
> between move or resize).
>
> f11, toggle screen curtain.
>
> f12, not mapped.
>
>
> Number Keys Row
>
>
> ~, tilde, resize window.
>
> 1 through 0, set or remove Hot Spot.
>
> dash, not mapped.
>
> =, not mapped.
>
> Delete, not mapped.
>
>
> Tab Key Row
>
>
> Tab, Ignore next keypress.
>
> Q, not mapped.
>
> W, read contents of window.
>
> E, not mapped.
>
> R, not mapped.
>
> T, read row or column numbers (Note, press the T key twice to read table
> dimensions).
>
> Y, not mapped.
>
> U, read link URL.
>
> I, read webpage statistics.
>
> O, open Control Center.
>
> P, not mapped.
>
> {, decrease zoom of item in VoiceOver cursor.
>
> }, increase zoom of item in VoiceOver cursor (Note, jump to sort button in a
> column).
>
> |, jump to Header.
>
>
> Caps Lock Key Row
>
>
> caps lock, doubles as VO keys if pressed.
>
> A, select text in VoiceOver cursor.
>
> S, interact with scroll bars.
>
> D, move to Desktop.
>
> F, open Find Commands menu.
>
> G, find previous searched text.
>
> H, read item help tag.
>
> J, jump to panel or pop up.
>
> K, toggle Keyboard Commander.
>
> l, read image description.
>
> colon, not mapped.
>
> " Quote, not mapped.
>
> Return, not mapped.
>
>
> Shift Key Row
>
>
> Z, save last phrase to file.
>
> X, open Hot Spot Chooser.
>
> C, copy last phrase to pasteboard.
>
> V, not mapped.
>
> B, not mapped.
>
> N, read item hint.
>
> M, shortcut menu.
>
> < lesser, drop item before VoiceOver cursor.
>
> greater, drop item after VoiceOver cursor.
>
> ? (Question Mark), VoiceOver online help.
>
>
> Control Key Row
>
>
> Spacebar, mouse click or double-click.
>
> Up Arrow, Stop interacting.
>
> Left Arrow, Previous character.
>
> Down Arrow, Start interacting.
>
> Right Arrow, Next character.
>
>
> Level Three. With Ctrl-Option-Command pressed
>
>
> Function Keys Row (laptops may include fn key)
>
>
> Esc, close window.
>
> f1, not mapped.
>
> f2, window dimensions (Note, press twice for window position and whether
> anything overlaps the window).
>
> f3, item dimensions (Note, press twice to hear item position and whether
> anything overlaps the item).
>
> f4, move keyboard focus to VoiceOver cursor.
>
> f5, move mouse pointer to VoiceOver cursor.
>
> f6, not mapped.
>
> f7, not mapped.
>
> f8, VoiceOver Quick Start.
>
> f9, hide or show braille panel.
>
> f10, hide or show caption panel.
>
> f11, hide or show visuals.
>
> f12, not mapped.
>
>
> Number Keys Row
>
>
> ` accent, move object.
>
> 1 through 0, describe Hot Spot.
>
> dash, not mapped.
>
> =, toggle table interaction.
>
> Delete, not mapped.
>
>
> Tab Key Row
>
>
> Tab, not mapped.
>
> Q, find next block quote.
>
> W, find next block quote same level.
>
> E, find next misspelled word.
>
> R, not mapped.
>
> T, find next table.
>
> Y, find next column.
>
> U, find next underlined text.
>
> I, find next italic text.
>
> O, find next font change.
>
> P, find next plain text.
>
> [ left bracket, find previous Web Spot.
>
> ] right bracket, find next Web Spot.
>
> \ back slash, jump back to parent row or folder.
>
>
> Caps Lock Key Row
>
>
> caps lock, doubles as VO keys if pressed.
>
> A, speak current search text in find mode.
>
> S, find next item of same attributes.
>
> D, find next item of different type/style.
>
> F, find next frame in HTML.
>
> G, find next graphic.
>
> H, find next heading.
>
> J, find next control.
>
> K, find next color change.
>
> L, find next link.
>
> ; semi-colon, not mapped.
>
> ’ Single-Quote, not mapped.
>
> Return, Toggle multiple selection and select each item.
>
>
> Shift Key Row
>
>
> z, not mapped.
>
> x, find next list.
>
> c, find next text with different attributes.
>
> v, find next visited link.
>
> b, find next bold text.
>
> n, find next auto Web Spot.
>
> m, find next heading of same level.
>
> , (comma), not mapped.
>
> . (period), not mapped.
>
> / (slash), show more content for the current item.
>
> Shift, not mapped.
>
>
> Control Keys Row
>
>
> Spacebar, open the Actions menu.
>
> Arrows, Voiceover rotor.
>
> Left/Right arrows, rotate rotor.
>
> Up/Down arrows, move through rotor items.
>
>
> Level Four. With Ctrl-Option-Shift-Command pressed
>
>
> Function Keys Row (laptops may include fn key)
>
>
> Entire row, not mapped.
>
>
> Number Keys Row
>
>
> ~ tilde, resize object.
>
> 1 through 0, monitor Hot Spot.
>
> dash, not mapped.
>
> =, not mapped.
>
> Delete, not mapped.
>
>
> Tab Key Row
>
>
> Tab, not mapped.
>
> Q, find previous block quote.
>
> W, find previous block quote same level.
>
> E, find previous misspelled word.
>
> R, not mapped.
>
> T, find previous table.
>
> Y, find previous column.
>
> U, find previous underlined text.
>
> I, find previous italic text.
>
> O, find previous font change.
>
> P, find previous plain text.
>
> [ left curly bracket, remove Web Spot. In Finder, remove Window Spot.
>
> ] right curly bracket, set Web Spot (Note, press twice to set a Sweet Spot.
> In Finder, set a Window Spot.
>
> \ back slash, not mapped.
>
>
> Caps Lock Key Row
>
>
> caps lock, doubles as VO keys if pressed.
>
> A, not mapped.
>
> S, find previous item of same type/style.
>
> D, find previous item of different type/style.
>
> F, find previous frame in HTML.
>
> G, find previous graphic.
>
> H, find previous heading.
>
> J, find previous control.
>
> K, find previous color change.
>
> L, find previous link.
>
> ; semi-colon, not mapped.
>
> ’ Single-Quote, not mapped.
>
> Return, not mapped.
>
>
> Shift Key Row
>
>
> z, not mapped.
>
> x, find previous list.
>
> c, find previous text with different attributes.
>
> v, find previous visited link.
>
> b, find previous bold text.
>
> n, find previous auto Web Spot.
>
> m, find previous heading of same level.
>
> , (comma), not mapped.
>
> . (period), not mapped.
>
> / (slash), not mapped.
>
> Shift, not mapped.
>
>
> Control Keys Row.
>
>
> Spacebar, lock/unlock down mouse.
>
> Arrows, Voiceover speech settings.
>
>
> Combined List
>
>
> Arranged by single-key.
>
> Note: VO = control-option.
>
>
> Function Keys Row (laptops may require fn key as well)
>
>
> Esc VO, cancel current mode. +Shift, not mapped. +Command, close window.
> +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
> f1 VO, application summary, press twice to open the Application Chooser.
> +Shift, not mapped. +Command, not mapped. +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
> f2 VO, window summary, press twice to open the Window Chooser. +shift, move
> window to front. +command, first press; window dimensions. Second press;
> window screen location. +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
> f3 VO, describe item in VoiceOver cursor. +shift, toggle cursor tracking.
> +command, item dimensions. +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
> f4 VO, describe item in keyboard focus. +shift, move VoiceOver cursor to
> keyboard focus. +command, move keyboard focus to VoiceOver cursor.
> +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
> f5 VO, describe item in mouse pointer. Press two or three times to hear the
> mouse location differently. +shift, move VoiceOver cursor to mouse pointer.
> +command, move mouse pointer to VoiceOver cursor. +Shift-Command, not
> mapped.
>
> f6 VO, describe selected item. +Shift, not mapped. +Command, not mapped.
> +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
> f7 VO, not mapped at all.
>
> f8 VO, VoiceOver Utility. +Shift, not mapped. +command, VoiceOver Quick
> Start. +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
> f9 VO, not mapped. +shift, resize or move braille panel. +command, hide or
> show braille panel. +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
> f10 VO, tile visuals. +shift, resize or move caption panel, press this
> command again to choose move or resize. +command, hide or show caption
> panel. +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
> f11 VO, not mapped. +shift, toggle screen curtain. +command, hide or show
> visuals. +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
> f12 VO, not mapped at all.
>
>
> Number Keys Row (press numbers twice to open Hot Spot Chooser)
>
>
> ` (accent) VO, start moving window, (Esc to stop). +shift, resize window.
> +command, move object. +shift-command, resize object.
>
> 1 through 0 VO, jump to Hot Spot. +shift, set or remove Hot Spot. +command,
> describe Hot Spot. +shift-command, monitor Hot Spot.
>
> (dash/minus) VO, decrease system volume. Otherwise, not mapped.
>
> = (equals) VO, increase system volume. +Shift, not mapped. +command, toggle
> table interaction. +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
> Delete VO, delete ruler marker, (in TextEdit). Otherwise, not mapped.
>
>
> Tab Keys Row
>
>
> Tab VO, ignore next key press. Otherwise, not mapped.
>
> q VO, toggle single-key Quick Nav. +Shift, not mapped. +command, find next
> block quote. +shift-command, find previous block quote.
>
> w VO, read word. press two or three times to spell a word in different ways.
> +shift, read contents of window. +command, find next block quote same level.
> +shift-command, find previous block quote same level.
>
> e VO, not mapped. +Shift, not mapped. +command, find next misspelled word.
> +shift-command, find previous misspelled word.
>
> r VO, read row header description. press twice to read the contents of a
> table row from the VoiceOver cursor to the end of the row. Otherwise, not
> mapped.
>
> t VO, text attributes. +shift, read row or col numbers (Note, press the T
> key twice to read table dimensions). +command, find next table. +
> shift-command, find previous table.
>
> y VO, not mapped. +Shift, not mapped. +command, find next column.
> +shift-command, find previous column.
>
> u VO, Rotor. +shift, read link URL. +command, find next underlined text.
> +shift-command, find previous underlined text.
>
> i VO, Item Chooser. +shift, read webpage statistics. +command, find next
> italic text. +shift-command, find previous italic text.
>
> o VO, open Notification Center. +Shift, open Control Center. +command, find
> next font change. +shift-command, find previous font change.
>
> p VO, read paragraph. +Shift, not mapped. +command, find next plain text.
> +shift-command, find previous plain text.
>
> [ (left bracket) VO, move to previous Hot Spot. +shift, decrease zoom of
> item in VoiceOver cursor. +command, find previous Web Spot. + shift-command,
> remove Web Spot. In Finder, remove Window Spot.
>
> ] (right bracket) VO, move to next Hot Spot. +shift, increase zoom of item
> in VoiceOver cursor (Note, jump to sort button in a column). +command, find
> next Web Spot. +shift-command, set Web Spot (Note, press twice to set Sweet
> spot. In Finder, press once to set Window Spot).
>
> \ (BackSlash) VO, open or close disclosure triangle. +shift, Jump to Header.
> +command, jump back to parent row or folder. +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
>
> Caps Lock key Row
>
>
> caps lock, pressed can be substitute for VO keys.
>
> a VO, read all. Reads contents of VO cursor. When interacting with text,
> reads from the VoiceOver cursor to bottom of text. +shift, select text in
> VoiceOver cursor. +Command, speak current search text in find mode.
> +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
> s VO, read current sentence. +shift, interact with scroll bars. +Command,
> find next item of same attributes. +Shift-Command, find previous item of
> same type/style.
>
> d VO, go to Dock. +shift, move to Desktop. +Command, find next item of
> different type/style. +Shift-Command, find previous item of different
> type/style.
>
> f VO, find text. +shift, open Find Commands menu. +Command, find next frame
> in HTML. +Shift-Command, find previous frame in HTML.
>
> g VO, find next searched text. +shift, find previous searched text.
> +Command, find next graphic. +Shift-Command, find previous graphic.
>
> h VO, VoiceOver help menu. Press twice to open the Commands menu. +shift,
> read item help tag. +Command, find next heading. +Shift-Command, find
> previous heading.
>
> j VO, jump to linked item. +shift, jump to panel or pop up. +Command, find
> next control. +Shift-Command, find previous control.
>
> k VO, Live keyboard help (practice). +shift, toggle Keyboard Commander.
> +Command, find next color change. +Shift-Command, find previous color
> change.
>
> l VO, read line. +shift, read image description. +Command, find next link.
> +Shift-Command, find previous link.
>
> ; (semi-colon) VO, lock or unlock VoiceOver keys. Otherwise, not mapped.
>
> ’ (apostrophe) VO, not mapped at all.
>
> Return VO, When in text area, start selection mode, press again to stop
> selecting. +shift, not mapped. +Command, Toggle multiple selection and
> select each item. +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
>
> Shift Key Row
>
>
> z VO, read last phrase. +Shift, save last phrase to file. +Command, not
> mapped. +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
> x VO, activity chooser. Press twice to switch to the previous activity.
> +Shift, open hotspot chooser. +Command, find next list. +Shift-Command, find
> previous list.
>
> c VO, read character or column header. Press twice to; in text - hear
> character phonetically. in tables - hear the contents of a column from the
> VoiceOver cursor to the bottom of the column. +Shift, copy last phrase to
> pasteboard. +Command, find next text with different attributes.
> +Shift-Command, find previous text with different attributes.
>
> v VO, verbosity rotor. +Shift, not mapped. +Command, find next visited link.
> +Shift-Command, find previous visited link.
>
> b VO, read from top to VoiceOver cursor. +Shift, not mapped. +Command, find
> next bold text. +Shift-Command, find previous bold text.
>
> n VO, open Notifications menu with list of current Notifications. press
> twice to open announcements menu with list of Voiceover announcements.
> +Shift, read item hint. +Command, find next auto Web Spot. +Shift-Command,
> find previous auto Web Spot.
>
> m VO, menu bar. press twice to jump to the status menu in the menu bar.
> +Shift, shortcut menu. +Command, find next heading of same level.
> +Shift-Command, find previous heading of same level.
>
> comma VO, mark item to drag and drop. +Shift, drop item before VoiceOver
> cursor. +Command, not mapped. +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
> period VO, drop item on VoiceOver cursor. +Shift, drop item after VoiceOver
> cursor. +Command, not mapped. +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
> slash VO, create custom label. +Shift, VoiceOver online help. +Command, show
> more content for the current item. +Shift-Command, not mapped.
>
>
> Control Key Row
>
>
> Spacebar VO, perform default action for selected item. +Shift, click the
> mouse button at the mouse cursor position. +Command, Actions Menu.
> +Shift-Command, first press hold down mouse button at mouse cursor position,
> second press - release mouse button at mouse cursor position.
>
> Arrow keys VO, in Finder: moves up, down, right or left to next item. In
> text, up/down moves to previous or next line, right/left, moves to next or
> previous word. In web, right/left moves to next or previous element, up/down
> navigates by Rotor setting. +Shift, in text; right and left moves focus by
> character. Everywhere; up and down interacts/uninteracts with areas.
> +Command, right and left; rotates Voiceover rotor, up and down; moves
> through rotor items. +Shift-Command, Voiceover speech settings.
>
>
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> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On
> Behalf Of lenron brown
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2023 9:52 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Disappearing External Drive and Finder issue
>
>
>
> I need a list of the best shortcuts. I am finding myself  feeling like I am
> so slow on the mac.
>
>
>
> On 2/1/23, Herbie Allen < <mailto:herbie.al...@gmail.com>
> herbie.al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Shortcuts are an essential aspect of Mac usage. Remember as many as
>
>> you can!
>
>>
>
>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 19:15, Dave Carlson < <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>
>>> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>
>>> Brad, Wow. How do you keep all those keyboard shortcuts in your head?
>
>>> I never knew about using the shift key with that combination to make
>
>>> it a quick and dirty force shutdown.
>
>>>
>
>>> Dave Carlson
>
>>> Oregonian, Woodworker, Farfar, Engineer, Musician
>
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>>>
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 2:01 PM, Bradford Snyder < <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>
>>> wb...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
>>>
>
>>> The keyboard command CMD + OPT + Escape, will open the Force Quit
>>> dialog.
>
>>> Using CMD + OPT + Shift + Escape, will Force Quit the current app, or
>
>>> restart Finder without opening the Force Quit dialog.
>
>>>
>
>>> HTH.
>
>>>
>
>>> - Brad -
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:33, Kaare Dehard < <mailto:kaare.deh...@gmail.com>
>>> kaare.deh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>
>>> There is an issue with finder on and off in Ventura. If it gives the
>
>>> no window message cmd-option-escape will allow you to re-launch the
>
>>> finder and may solve the concern.
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 4:31 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
>
>>>> < <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>>>
>
>>>> Thanks.  This is not an older Mac, it’s a 2020 M1.  SO I guess I
>
>>>> will disconnect all the external drives, all three of them, and
>
>>>> restart.  I neglected to say that when the Finder stops working, I
>
>>>> have to open a program like Mail to shut down the computer at all,
>
>>>> and it might take it several minutes to do it.
>
>>>>
>
>>>> I just disconnected all the external drives, I have three, and I
>
>>>> hope I don’t lose them all as one of them is my Time Machine backup.
>
>>>> The Mac turned on very quickly.  SO Now I guess I will start trying
>
>>>> to reconnect these things.  What fun.
>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>
>>>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 3:19 PM, Herbie Allen <
>>>>> <mailto:herbie.al...@gmail.com> herbie.al...@gmail.com>
>
>>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> There could be a number of things. The age of your Mac, the cord,
>
>>>>> or the drive itself. If yours is an older Mac though, that is most
>
>>>>> likely the issue. Restart your mac and then plug in the drive. When
>
>>>>> you open it, give the drive a couple minutes to load. There could
>
>>>>> also be a formatting issue.
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:13, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
>
>>>>>> < <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>
>
>>>>>> Hello.  I bought a nice big hard disc to store books, movies, and
>
>>>>>> music on.  It is connected to my Mac mini via a cable.  I got
>
>>>>>> messages saying that it had not been ejected properly, though, of
>
>>>>>> course, it had not been ejected at all.  If I try to go to my
>
>>>>>> external drives, the finder just stops working altogether.  SO
>
>>>>>> right now, I am running first aid on the one of them that I can
>
>>>>>> see.  But is there anything else I can do besides either give up
>
>>>>>> or call AppleCare?  By the way, when the Finder stops working, I
>
>>>>>> can’t open files from anywhere and apps like TextEdit won’t launch
>
>>>>>> either, though Mail and Safari still work.  Does this necessarily
>
>>>>>> mean that the external disc is corrupted?  Do I need to go further
>>>>>> than just the Disc Utility?  Thanks for any guidance.
>
>>>>>>
>
>>>>>> My poor, ailing Mac!
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>>>>>>
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