Hi! I normally do not have issues with such things in mail. There are other things in the mail app that has gone strange in the beta. I try my best to give the feedback I can. /A
> 8 sep. 2023 kl. 03:06 skrev Jonathan Cohn <[email protected]>: > > What are you talking about, VoiceOver for Mac with the Mail application has > always respected using the goto header functions. > > Best wishes, > > Jonathan Cohn > > > >> On Sep 7, 2023, at 3:18 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> I agree and I use the same tactic: Windows is superior on web navigation and >> even email when it comes to newsletters where you can swiftly and reliably >> navigate through headings and links and activate them - a difficult if not >> impossible task in Apple mail. >> >> Andrew >> >>> On 7 Sep 2023, at 18:32, lenron brown <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> I hate web Browsing on the mac. Most other things I am good with. I >>> use both platforms for different reasons, even having a 2023 MBP 14 >>> with max chip. I still use my windows computers as my daily drivers. I >>> like my mac for vocr and logic, and a few other things. Some things >>> can just be slower on a mac when it comes to page navagation and a >>> couple other things, I just would rather not deal with it. >>> >>> On 9/7/23, Mohamed Fayed <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I’ve lately switched from 2016 15” MBP to 2023 M2Max 16””. The gain in >>>> performance is tremendous and you will notice it. >>>> >>>> For issues related to “mail is not responding”, it occurs when you make the >>>> exact keystrokes, but Voiceover continues within a significantly shorter >>>> duration. >>>> >>>> For web browsing, Safari nowadays is pretty bad. This is not related to VO. >>>> You may try Google Chrome or MS Edge instead. >>>> >>>> Windows on Apple Silicon is significantly faster. If there is a chance to >>>> get to Apple Silicon device, and try it yourself, that would be great. >>>> >>>> The issue that annoys me the most is VO stops talking. It is on Mac and >>>> iOS. >>>> I hope they fix it soon. >>>> >>>> Hope that helps, >>>> >>>> Mohamed E. Fayed >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 7 Sep 2023, at 8:01 PM, Dave Carlson <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> My biggest gripe with Mac OS and VO is web browsing. It’s awful compared >>>>> to Windows with JAWS or NNVDA. It is the main reason I would seriously >>>>> consider going back to Windows if/when it’s time to get a new laptop. >>>>> I use DuckDuckGo as my browser now to get away from that annoying “Safari >>>>> is Busy” message that cripples my productivity. >>>>> >>>>> So I’m on the fence about switching back to Windows, but if VO on the Mac >>>>> does not improve over time (and I doubt that it will) I might just flip a >>>>> coin on the decision. >>>>> >>>>> Dave Carlson >>>>> Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, Farfar >>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Traci Duncan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, it seems like we are having more than a few messages on this list >>>>> about the disappointment in Mac’s VoiceOver performance. >>>>> >>>>> Are quite a few of you thinking of switching back to windows? Or are a lot >>>>> of you overall still happy with the VoiceOver experience? >>>>> >>>>> I think I am mostly curious about this, because I have been talking about >>>>> updating my MacBook Eyre. I guess part of me is beginning to wonder, >>>>> should I get a Windows laptop instead? I would be very disappointed to >>>>> spend $900 on a MacBook Air, and still have a lot of performance issues. >>>>> >>>>> What are your guises thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> From Traci's MBA20. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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