Ah, I've not been wanting Apple to change the magic tap behavior for everyone 
else; I've just been wanting the
ability to adjust what functions it can do on my own phone, much as we can do 
for the power button.

On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 09:15:31AM -0600, Brad Snyder wrote:
   I wouldn’t hold my breath expecting Apple to alter the behavior of the
   2-finger Magic tap as you requested in your first message.

   I believe the gesture is performing as intended by Apple, and it is
   better for you to alter the method you use to start  dictation.  :)

   - Brad -
   On Nov 25, 2023, at 08:59, Doug Lee <d...@dlee.org> wrote:
   Ah, the Start Dictation button. I used that years ago but forgot about
   the option by now. Might try that at
   least until Apple addresses the focus issue when sending messages that
   I mentioned in my first message on this
   thread.
   On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 08:41:15AM -0600, Brad Snyder wrote:
   Hello Doug,
   The solution to your dilemma is relatively simple. Rather than use the
   two finger magic tap to begin dictation, locate the microphone button
   on the bottom row of the keyboard. Once focus is on this button, do a
   one finger double tap to begin dictation. You may then use a two finger
   double tap to stop dictation when you are done speaking.
   This is the method I have been using as long as I have been using an
   iPhone with voiceover, and find it works 99.9% of the time without
   issue.
   HTH.
   - Brad -
   On Nov 24, 2023, at 21:15, Doug Lee <d...@dlee.org> wrote:
   Ah, good to know without making a mess to find out. :)
   Last question then: Is there an easier way to clear the playback
   controls from the lock screen? Currently I
   load and then close the Music app to get that done.
   On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 07:11:12PM -0800, Dave Carlson wrote:
    Doug,
    No. Don’t delete the app. The unfortunate answer is that whatever
   media
    is remaining  will. Play as default. You can see what that is if you
   go
    to the control center and swipe to media to see what’s I the queue.
    Only answer is to use another media (audio books, podcast, YouTube
    video, etc.) as your last thing played, and that will live in the
   queue
    until replaced by something else.
    Dave Carlson
    Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfar
    dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
    On Nov 24, 2023, at 7:02 PM, Doug Lee <d...@dlee.org> wrote:
    Do you know if any possible good for me, or bad, would come from my
    deleting the Music app? That was my only
    guess before asking, but I haven't tried that yet and I also have
   never
    had reason to check what happens if I
    later want it back, unlikely though that probably is.
    On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 06:55:58PM -0800, Gabe Griffith wrote:
    Hi Doug,
    As far as I know there is not a way to edit the functions of the magic
    tap gesture.
    Gabe
    Gabe Griffith
    President, California Council of the Blind
    (925)222-5762
    gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org
      On Nov 24, 2023, at 6:53 PM, Doug Lee <d...@dlee.org> wrote:
      Kind of you to answer, and quickly indeed. I forgot the name "magic
      tap" somehow, but I do know it is a
      multi-function gesture.
      But my actual question is, can I somehow remove from its set of
      active functions the activation of the Music
      app and its controls, which happens even if I have no music to play
      in some cases. I don't use my phone for
      music; I use other devices for that. When I think focus is in an
      edit field but it's not, I know the gesture
      will not activate dictation. But I'm asking how to keep the gesture,
      at that time, from instead activating
      Music controls, and sound if there's anything to play.
      Thanks again.
      On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 06:44:38PM -0800, Gabe Griffith wrote:
      Hi,
      The two finger gesture you are referring to is known as a magic tap.
      The reason for this is that it does several things. It will answer
      or hang up a call, it will start and stop dictation, and it will
      start and stop media from playing. If you want to use it for
      dictation you will need to be sure the edit field, whether a text
      message or an email or something else, is activated. If it isn't and
      you perform the to finger double tap then that is when your media
      such as music will start playing.
      I hope that helps,
      Gabe
      Gabe Griffith
      President, California Council of the Blind
      (925)222-5762
      gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org
      On Nov 24, 2023, at 4:37 PM, Doug Lee <d...@dlee.org> wrote:
      I am using iOS 16 because I have an iPhone X, but I think what
      follows also applies to iOS 17.
      As of an update or few ago, there is a sequence I commonly perform
      which results in surprise music; so I am
      wanting to know how to stop the double-finger double-tap from
      starting music playback. I have two reasons:
      First of course to avoid startling myself and sometimes interfering
      with dictation that I was actually trying
      to start. Also though, I don't want the music controls on my lock
      screen, as clearing them requires me to
      launch and then close the Music app. These controls appear on my
      lock screen even if there is no music to
      play, so just clearing my library will not fully solve this problem.
      The sequence that bites me so often, for anyone curious:
      * Open iMessage and activate a specific conversation.
      * Move to and double-tap the typing area. Focus should land in it
      but now often then moves immediately to the
      last message.
      * Do a double-finger double-tap to start receiving dictation speech,
      assuming focus is where I put it. When
      it's not, I get the surprise.
      Any info most welcome.

-- 
Doug Lee                 d...@dlee.org                http://www.dlee.org
Time is the friend of one who is true, and the enemy of one who isn't.
(02/05/2010)

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