And surely, this is the point. Apple does not tout Accessibility in their products as being a huge deal because their philosophy can be summed up in two words "universal access", meaning that accessibility is an integral part of any of their products.
TC James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny On 20 Apr 2010, at 23:20, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Vo doesn't kick in. You have to activate that as well when turning on any > Mac. Which is the point. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:39 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Nick while I agree with you entirely, I think the point they were trying to >> get across is this. When one turns on any kind of mac desktop or laptop, if >> no interaction takes place for a specific time VO kicks in. I think that >> this might be the kind of thing they wanted to happen with the iPad. >> >> Of course I could be entirely wrong, and to be honest this doesn't make any >> sense, but my feeling is that this is the point the article was trying to >> make. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Dónal >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen >> Sent: 20 April 2010 21:20 >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Article from the RNIB about the IPad >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm a bit confused here. >> >> "It is just a shame that VoiceOver is switched off by default, meaning it >> has to be activated before the iPad can be used." and "It would have been a >> real bonus had the iPad been accessible out of the box. Unfortunately, this >> was not quite the case." >> >> These views are kind of strange and puzzling to me. It seems a weird >> definition of "out of the box". It's a mainstream product. That'd make it >> too confusing for a sighted user using the iPad if VoiceOver was on by >> default. And, by all rights, it shouldn't be on by default, as it is a >> product not geared "specifically" towards blind people. That's the only >> thing I found kind of odd, but otherwise, pretty nice. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >> >>> I would agree with you John. as a total VI user of an IPhone, I don't >> think they praised the screen reader enough. And its that point of the >> accessibility out of the box that has wound me up. I think that could put >> users off entirely and let's see, how many products are accessible out of >> the box that rNIB promotes readily? >>> I'll post a link to my blog I'm writing for you guys to agree or disagree >> with me but on the whole, I think its a fair first impressions. >>> >>> On 20 Apr 2010, at 17:33, John J Herzog wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for passing this article along. I think that, for the most part, >> this article was fair. They seem to point out both positives and negatives >> of the product which is good. >>>> The only area where I have some problems with the article, is that they >> made to big of a deal about activating voiceover through Itunes. This is not >> that hard since it is accessible on both mac and windows, and requires all >> of two seconds to do. Other than that, it's pretty good. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:18 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi guys, >>>>> Thought I'd put this article out there for everyone to discuss. I will >> be writing a blog on my opinions of this article shortly. But here it is for >> you all to read. >>>>> >>>>> It's an article done by the RNIB which is the national charity for the >> blind in the UK. 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