Mine is. 2 gtigs causes my vm to c hoke every sngle time and the fan to turn on.
stumpped here. On Apr 23, 2010, at 3:11 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Wow. I suck. These specs clearly show I must update my RAM. I've been using > both Windows XP and Windows 7 for months now, only utilizing 512MB of RAM. > Surprisingly, it's not anywhere near as slow as everyone says it should be. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Apr 23, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > >> I've got three vm's running in fusion, I don't have them all running at >> once, but I have xp with a 2 core processor and 2 gig ram, windows 7 with >> the same specs, and ubuntu with 1 gig ram and a 2core processor. >> All of them work great. >> I don't see the point in having more specs setup and then making the system >> slower overall. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart >> Sent: Thursday, 22 April 2010 12:07 p.m. >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: the apple user? >> >> Sarah, >> >> Windows runs best on a VM when you give it the total 3GB of memory that 32 >> bit Windows can access, but 3GB is way too much memory to reserve when you >> only have 4GB total in your computer. That leaves only 1GB of memory for >> running OSX, the VMware application itself, plus any other Mac apps that you >> have open. If you choke OSX, then it won't matter how much memory you give >> to the virtual machine. >> >> If you have 4GB of memory in your Mac: >> >> For best performance, use these. For Windows XP, set the memory size to 1GB. >> For Windows 7, set the memory size to 1.5GB. For Windows Vista, set the >> memory size to 2GB, but Vista is such a poor user of memory that you >> shouldn't ever use that for a VM. >> >> If you're trying to run as many virtual machines as possible, you can set >> the memory size to a smaller amount, but, beyond a point, shrinking the >> memory further will really start to affect performance. You can use as >> little as 512MB for XP and 1GB for Windows 7 without dramatically affecting >> performance. They'll still run fairly fast, though not at full speed, and >> they'll start to lag if you open more than a few programs. If you plan to >> use your virtual machine like a full PC, with Outlook, IE, Word, and several >> other programs all open at once, you shouldn't be using these small memory >> values. >> >> People will tell you things like they can run XP with 384MB, or they can run >> Windows 7 with 512MB. Yes, they can, but they will run slower than they >> could with sufficient memory. >> >> In short, there is a minimal level of memory for a VM that is required to >> make it even possible to run without being frustratingly unresponsive. >> Beyond that, there is a level that makes it possible to run a VM without the >> frustrating lags, but you can't open many programs at once, and you're >> missing out on some speed benefits. Further still is the optimal memory >> level, where giving the VM any more memory might improve performance a >> little, but the improvements are negligible. Finally, there is the maximum >> amount of memory that it is possible for a VM to use. The ideal is to give >> the VM as much as it can affectively use, but you can't give it so much that >> OSX doesn't have any left over for itself. In order to get good results, you >> have to work out a balance. >> >> >> For example, I use Win 7 VMs, and I give them 3GB of memory. Win 7 could run >> well with 1.5GB, but, when Windows has a lot of memory available, it uses >> the extra to hold frequently used system files and other application >> components in memory, so that it isn't necessary to spend time loading them >> from the hard drive when needed. I have 8GB of memory in this Mac, so, while >> giving Windows 7 that extra 1.5GB will only help it run fractionally faster, >> I have the memory to spare, so it is better to use the extra memory to do >> what I can to make Windows performance as good as it can be for a VM. >> >> Also, be sure that your VM is only using a single processor core. Even >> though you physical CPU has 2 cores, and it is possible to share both of >> them between the VM and OSX, everything will run in a more stable manner >> with a single core VM. With multiple cores set on the VM, I occasionally get >> choppy speech, and recording audio/audio conferencing tools in Windows don't >> work correctly. >> >> Bryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:58 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: the apple user? >> >> I ahave a 4 gig dool cor 2.3ghz processer with 4 gigs of ram. jaws and nvda >> studder and are so chopy it missed words and sounds like diao up >> connection. >> On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> Huh. What Mac do you have? There's clearly some problem here; I'm running >> it fine on a Macbook Pro, 4GB RAM and my VM only has 2GB allocated to it. >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> vms though apparently cannot run on my mac as the speech gets very >> choppy. I've given it all I can and still no go. >>>> >>>> Ah well. Take care. >>>> >>>> S >>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Maurice Mines wrote: >>>> >>>>> hi I can't just can't use bootcamp, I must use a vm. I am a edtech >>>>> ta so i don't to confeuze techer ed studentes. use both jfw, and >> windoweyes. and so fare me it seems to work.ps please forgive my spealling I >> am vary tired the end of the term is near. I am not getting much >> sleep.Maurice ham call kd0iko.On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Sarah Alawami >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You can set up a bootcamp partition so you can use all of yoru system >> specks. that is what I did and it works well. vmwhare chokes on my system >> so can't use it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care. >>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:09 PM, olivia norman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This is very helpful information and thanks for sending! I'm a >> graduate student, and I exclusively use the mac for all school work. I >> mostly use iWork to accomplish tasks. The only reason I haven't installed >> fusion is because I don't own an expensive windows screen reader, but I am >> wondering whether this might be a good solution for an internship I will be >> doing in the fall. I really don't want to go back to jusing windows after >> using my mac, so this might work well. I suppose that purchasing the >> expensive windows screen reader might be inevitable, but at least I'll be >> able to use my mac! How much hard drive space would I need to run fusion? >>>>>>> Thank you again for this information! >>>>>>> Olivia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower", Steve >>>>>>> Jobs >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:23 PM, denise avant wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> Yes. Particularly since I am a lawyer with the public defenders >> office. And my primary role as an appellate and post-conviction attorney is >> to write briefs, with case citations. >>>>>>>> I knew about the fusion program, as I have spent time talking to >> others about the program. I didn't know about the snap shot. >>>>>>>> So thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John J >>>>>>>> Herzog >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:14 PM >>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: the apple user? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> As a macbook user, who has to write substantial papers for law >> school, and who has used his computer at a summer internship with Pepsico, I >> feel I can helpfully answer your questions. >>>>>>>> Forgive the length of this email. >>>>>>>> First, the idea that macs are only play toys is complete and utter >> nonsense. On my mac, I do use the apps like Itunes and Ichat, but I use >> serious apps as well. Iwork is quite accessible, as is text edit, allowing >> you to do extensive formatting of documents. Also, the preview application >> on the mac is one of the best PDF readers I have ever seen. The text is >> readable with voiceover, and there are few, if any crashes. What other >> screen readers can you say that about? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Next, I will address your concern about microsoft office applications >> not being accessible. It is true that they do not work with voiceover. >> However, for about seventy dollars, you can pick up a program called VMware >> fusion. Fusion allows you to install windows and run it at the same time as >> your mac. This means that you can use whatever screen reader you like for >> windows and run office without a hitch. >>>>>>>> There is one more upside to running fusion on mac. After you have >> configured windows just the way you want it, you can create what is known as >> a snapshot. The snapshot will restore your system to its exact configuration >> at the time you took it, meaning you will always have a fresh install of >> windows, office, and your screen reader a click away. It's awesome, because >> it does a complete and utter system restore when windows decides to go south >> on you. For a blind person, I actually think a mac with fusion is better >> than a standard windows PC for this reason. Note that a fusion snapshot >> literally restores all files and settings to the way they were when you took >> it. It is much more extensive than using the built in windows system restore >> utility. It has saved my skin a number of times, and I will give you a >> perfect example. >>>>>>>> At the beginning of law school, I found it necessary to purchase a >> scanner with a document feeder. Previously, I had a different scanner that I >> was using with kurzweil 1000. Now, when I installed the twain drivers for >> the new scanner, after trying to unsuccessfully remove the old drivers, I >> found myself in a situation where neither set worked. If I had a standard >> windows machine, I was facing the real possibility of having to reinstall >> windows to get either unit to work reliably. Either that, or it was having >> to spend hours and hours messing with system dll files, and we all know what >> happens after that. >>>>>>>> So, instead, I just restored a snapshot I made of my XP machine prior >> to having installed either Kurzweil or the scanner software. I then >> installed both on what was essentially a fresh copy of windows, and all was >> smooth sailing from there. It saved me from endless headaches, plus the >> burden of having to get a sighted person to help install the screen reader >> again, and the time that would have been wasted in such a pursuit. >>>>>>>> I hope this helps answer your questions. >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> P.S. If you go to www.blindcooltech.com, you can find some excellent >> demos of the macintosh by Mike Arigo. He even shows how fusion and voiceover >> work, and he runs window eyes on the XP side of things. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 7:52 PM, denise avant wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>> Please forgive the length of this message. >>>>>>>> In researching the issue of whether to purchase an apple mac or not, >> I've come across a few people who have expressed criticism if not concern >> about the mac computers themselves. I own the iphone, and have enjoyed it >> tremendously. I've been able to do things with the phone I was never able to >> do with other phones. The only problem I still have is putting in extensions >> and account numbers once the number is connected. >>>>>>>> But having said this, I seriously doubt whether I will ever buy >> another phone, where I don't have accessibility built in. >>>>>>>> There is an applestoe here in Chicago, and when I've had any problem >> of any kind, the sales staff has been very easy to deal with. >>>>>>>> Even when I call on the telephone, I find a very friendly staff. >>>>>>>> I have my own personal sales representative since I have mac book pro >> on the drawing board. >>>>>>>> What I enjoy most of all, is that I can go to an appelstore, and with >> the exception of a couple of products, there is accessibility right out of >> the box, with no extra costs or smas to worry about. >>>>>>>> I'm seeking opinions from those of you who use these computers with >> voice over. The biggest criticism I've heard that if you're conducting a >> business or doing a serious project, the mac is not for the blind user. This >> apparently has to do with the fact that the office aps are not accessible >> with vo, and iwork9 acts strangely sometimes. >>>>>>>> Basically, one person, who doesn't use the mac, but is familiar with >> the product line, told me that the operating system was those who wanted to >> "play." >>>>>>>> Can those you have used the macbooks or other appel operating systems >> address these issues. 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