Hi,

I'm really confused why my name is at the top of this message. *grins* I never 
would want anyone to bring what they previously knew of their operating system, 
as they are vastly different. In many occasions, you can actually do more with 
VoiceOver than I.E. JAWS.

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Nic
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On May 2, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Nic I think the one thing we need to enforce here is do not bring your 
> windows and windows-based screen reading concepts to the Mac. If you try to 
> think of the Mac in windows terms or how things work with a windows screen 
> reader, you will find the transition to be difficult.
> There are significant differences between windows and the Mac in terms of 
> accessibility. You can browse the web in what is referred too as DOM mode, 
> which is as close to a windows screen reader experience, but then there is 
> groups mode, which presents the web experience, more as a sighted person 
> would use it or as close as is possible.
> IWorks is a great package and although not perfect yet, Apple continues to 
> improve it. I think it will be more accessible than Open Office in the end. 
> YOu of course have the option of running VmWare's Fusion and using WIndows if 
> necessary. My point of all this is to keep an open mind, be prepared for a 
> learning curve, and be patient. Also make sure you do some reading and 
> familiarize yourself with the OS and VoiceOver if you have not done so. 
> COnsider this one of the most exciting adventures you have undertaken and you 
> will be pleased. Yes, frustration will find you from time to time, but stay 
> the course and you to can be a switcher. :)
> 
> On May 1, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I personally prefer iWorks myself, but that is really only because in Open 
>> Office, each line is shown as another edit field. I still believe that is 
>> the case.
>> 
>> As for web browsing, you can jump to certain blocks of text. With the 
>> introduction of Web spots in Mac OS X 10.6, it can sort the page so that 
>> with one command, you can jump to the areas of the page that may be of most 
>> interest to you. Of course, you can also go by elements.
>> 
>> I really have not found any part of Mac OS inaccessible. There might be the 
>> occasional glitch, but those are quickly fixed or there is an easy 
>> workaround.
>> Regards,
>> Nic
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>> On May 2, 2010, at 3:06 AM, Edward wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello 
>>> Which one, open office, or iworks, do you recommend?
>>> Also you wrote: 
>>> Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about
>>> it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the
>>> page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded.
>>> I don't want to rant on how good it is. :)
>>> Please rant, I  would like to have as much info as possible.  Is all of the
>>> mac OS accessible?
>>> 
>>> Finally, can you easily navigate to a body of text on a webpage with few
>>> keystrokes?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Edward
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New to mac
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> There are good alternatives to MS Office. MS Office is not fully accessible
>>> yet, but it is said that it will be written in Cocoa, most likely making it
>>> accessible. The Mac has a basic Text Editor called Text Edit, which is a lot
>>> better than Wordpad and Notepad on Windows. You have suites such as iWork
>>> and Open Office, which will probably perform the tasks you want.
>>> 
>>> Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about
>>> it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the
>>> page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded.
>>> I don't want to rant on how good it is. :)
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
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>>> On May 2, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Edward wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> 
>>>> I am strongly considering buying my first Mac in a few weeks and would 
>>>> like to know if vo gives the user full accessibility in terms of ms 
>>>> office and web browsing?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for answering my nubie questions Edward
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