Did you have to recompile the kernel to install Speakup?  For some reason, I 
thought that Speakup wasn't available as Debian packages.

On Aug 29, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Keith Watson wrote:

> Actually I just googled debian vmware and appliance. I can't remember the 
> name of the image, but that should get you something. After getting the image 
> and booting it I had to ssh to it from my MAC terminal and update it to sid, 
> then install speakup. It was fairly painless.
> 
> I suppose that if there is enough interest I could put together a generic 
> version of my image with speakup installed and make it available to the 
> public.
> 
> Keith
> On Aug 29, 2010, at 2:01 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Do you have a pointer to a good image?
>> 
>> On Aug 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Keith Watson wrote:
>> 
>>> All well and good to have these tools available on the MAC. The only 
>>> problem is that VO access to the terminal is cumbersome at best. My 
>>> solution to this is to run a Debian VM and use speakup. Much better access 
>>> to it's term there, and if I need to do anything on my MAC i just ssh over 
>>> and take care of it that way.
>>> 
>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>> 
>>> Keith
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes, you have telnet, ssh, ftp and all the standard clients you'd expect.  
>>>> I'm sure you could enable daemons to accept connections as well although 
>>>> consider the security implications of doing that please.:)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 28, 2010, at 5:58 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> excuse my nose here, but in theory would that let you say tellnet to a 
>>>>> site or service that itself is shell associated?
>>>>> sorry if I am over guessing what one might do with that sort of bash. 
>>>>> still I would think you could run programs that way?
>>>>> Karen
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, 28 Aug 2010, Dave Taylor wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't know anything about this side of using a Mac at all. Is there a 
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> place to learn about it, right from scratch? I'll probably hardly need 
>>>>>> it,
>>>>>> but would certainly like to know just in case.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:36 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: the unix shell and mac terminal
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> Over the past few weeks I have been running vinux 3.0 lucid in a virtual
>>>>>> machine and have been playing with it. And then recently I went into the
>>>>>> terminal on my mac in snow leopard and typed some commands and 
>>>>>> surprisingly
>>>>>> I find that most of the commands I can perform in vinux I can also do 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the terminal or the mac's unix shell. It's really cool. The only 
>>>>>> difference
>>>>>> I can see in the mac is that it uses the darwin kernel while vinux uses 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> linux kernel. Oh and guys if you go into a terminal in your mac and type:
>>>>>> man ls
>>>>>> you can even read the unix man pages there. The only thing that doesn't 
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> is apt-get command. I'm not sure if dpkg works or not, I haven't tried 
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> I'll try right now. Well guys dpkg also does not work. The mac's shell
>>>>>> reminds me very much of vinux 3.0 lucid though.
>>>>>> If you type
>>>>>> uname -a
>>>>>> it will tell you the kernel version among other things.
>>>>>> If you type:
>>>>>> man ls
>>>>>> it will bring up the man page for the ls list directory command. to quit 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> man pages just press the letter q,. To close terminal hit command q. You 
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> even hit tab and it will autocomplete commands for you. I imagine the 
>>>>>> unix
>>>>>> shell is very powerful, even on the mac. And I'm glad mac uses the bash
>>>>>> shell. Vinux uses it too. I doubt voxin would work on the mac since 
>>>>>> voxin I
>>>>>> think is compiled for the linux kernel and not the darwin version10 
>>>>>> kernel.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Josh Kennedy
>>>>>> jkenn...@gmail.com
>>>>>> 
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