The funny part of this discussion is the camp that needs more power. I used to think that faster processor and more ram was the ticket. I do not believe this is the case any longer. Where I believe the new Air will shine is in the SSD. I believe if your going to do any audio editing or run a couple VMs, you will need ram for sure, but I suspect the 2.33Ghz processor will be sufficient for most tasks. Storage of course will be an issue if you have a lot of data, but remember these machines are notebooks and not desktops. True most people are using their notebooks as desktops and I am one of those; however, for what I do, my machine is more than capable. In fact I would say my machine is over capable. I have a MBP with a 2.8Ghz processor, 4Gb ram, and 500Gb storage. I can run without any problems, the Mac OS, VMWare Fusion running xp for some coursework, a Linux VM, and on the Mac OS I am using AUdiobook Builder to convert books to a format suitable to play on my iPhone, surf the web, reading e-mail, and streaming/playing local audio within iTUnes and my machine is really not working all that hard. Well AUdiobook Builder does seem to make it sweat a little, but I notice no lag at all. So, I would suspect the Air at 2.33 would likely do pretty well. The thing to remember is where all the choke points are. The data shuffling in/out of the processor and hard disk reads and writes. If you speed up all the choke-points, I think you would find all of this becomes less of an issue. Does this make sense? I am not familiar with the other brands of machines some have mentioned, but are you truly comparing like hardware? DO these other machines have an SSD and is the architecture the same? If your just comparing physical size, then you are not truly comparing like machines.
Scott On Oct 22, 2010, at 3:42 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > They are a great little machine, but although they can do everything, > Someone like me that wants power and portability they just aren't yet > suitable. > > I would prefer the new Toshiba R700 which has similar specs but better > processor, supports more ram,similar drive size if right model. > The only problem is it's not a mac. > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Howard Dupuis > Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 5:44 a.m. > To: MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: FW: Introducing the new MacBook Air. > > I have the previous generation MBA -- with an SS drive. It's got plenty of > power for what I do -- mostly reading and writing -- though it might not be > the ticket for someone who is looking for all sorts of ports, etc. Depends > what you will be doing. > It really is astonishingly light. 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