Thanks so much for this. I guess I need to understand more about what some of the things mean. For example, (and I have not looked at the url you sent yet), but in the commands help area there's a command that says something like move a bit left or move a bit right. Now intuitively, I know what those words mean but I'll be darned if I know when to use them. That's what I mean when I say for a new Mac user, I wish Apple had been a bit more descriptive. But, I'm not complaining and I'm not giving up.
Marlaina On Dec 18, 2010, at 2:21 PM, Andre Nuno Soares wrote: Marlaina, It's not like "press alt f4 to shut the door", but I find Appendix A of the VoiceOver guide very useful as a kind of cheat sheet: http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1131.html HTH, André On Dec 18, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: > Ah, I did that and it worked. Wow, I knew about command shift h but forgot I > knew it. Using that and command shift k, I can get easily from my Netgear > and my mac files. I wish there were some really good tutorials available > that would help drill some of this stuff into newbies or oldbies like me. > When I use to teach windows, I'd use little sayings with my students like > press alt f4 to shut the door; this helped them remember. I can't come up > with any such little cutesy things for the Mac OS. It's hard to remember all > these things if you don't use them on a regular basis. But, obviously many > of you have done just that. Any tips and tricks to start remembering all > this stuff would be really appreciated. But, command shift h is one I'll > never forget again! > > Marlaina > > > On Dec 17, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > Hi, > > You have to be in an area with folders files or apps besides the desktop. So > from your finder, press command shift H, to go to your user folder. Now > press command 3 and voiceover will announce column checked. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Dec 17, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: > >> Ok so when in finder, I pressed command 3 but vo didn't say anything. >> Should it have said column mode? >> >> Marlaina >> On Dec 16, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >> >> Riczrdo: You may ave solved for me the silly issue I've had wondering why >> some things and folders don't work the way they did. Obviously, I haven't >> yet mastered the modes thingie very well in terms of knowing what works best. >> Thanks. >> >> Carolyn H >> On Dec 16, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I use column mode myself. with this, pressing right arrow to open, and >>> left arrow to close a folder, works 100% of the time. From the finder you >>> can press command 3 to display finder contents in column mode. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>> >>>> You can use the right arrow to open a folder in browser or list view mode >>>> of a finder window. They behave a little differently though, in list mode >>>> the list gets longer and in browser mode you get moved over a column. >>>> >>>> Rading a description of browser mode would probably be hhelpful to folks >>>> that do a lot of scanning through folders. I will try to explain... >>>> >>>> In browser mode there are three or four columns available. The left most >>>> column is the highest in the set of folders currently visible. If one >>>> turns on "preview" mode for the browser then the right most column will >>>> have a Large icon of the folder and a bit more directory / file >>>> information (including I believe a "start playing" button for A/V files. >>>> What I reallylike about the browser mode, is that if you hit right arrow >>>> to view a folder hitting left arrow will bring you to the enclosing folde >>>> inwith the folder you just left selected. So if I am looking at >>>> "Library/Application Support/Apple" and hit a right arrow "Apple" will be >>>> selected and I can hit down arrow to see what the next item in >>>> "Library/Application Support" is. in a finder or window or a file >>>> selection dialog box, hitting command-3 will put you in browser mode. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Jon >>>> >>>> >>>> On 16 December 2010 12:33, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> It seems like at level 0 you have to do cmd down arrow but at 1 or 2 you >>>> do right arrow, I tried to discover a consistent pattern with this but >>>> thus far always at 0 cmd down arrow will open. >>>> >>>> Marlaina >>>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:22 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Jim: >>>> Try using commando to open the folder. Or, also, command-down-arrow will >>>> open the folder for you. I believe there's something that gets tweeked >>>> and changes this pattern of interaction. Because, there are times when >>>> simply right arrowing will open a folder, and there are other times it >>>> needs the command-o. >>>> HTH >>>> Carolyn Haas >>>> On Dec 15, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Jim Barbour wrote: >>>> >>>>> Howdy Folks, >>>>> >>>>> Using voice over, I'm trying to bring up a terminal, which is in the >>>>> applications folder. So far, I'm failing to figure out how to >>>>> navigate into and around the Applications folder. >>>>> >>>>> Can someone let me know how to go about this? >>>>> >>>>> Here's what I've tried so far... >>>>> >>>>> VO + d to go to the dock >>>>> VO + right arrow several times until I hear "applications folder" >>>>> VO + space to open the folder. >>>>> >>>>> At this point, I can see there's a window on the screen, and if I >>>>> use the arrow keys to move around inside it, I can see that different >>>>> icons are being highlighted. However, VO does not speak. If I use VO >>>>> + arrow keys, voice over acts as if I'm still in the doc, even though >>>>> I've opened this window. >>>>> >>>>> All help would be much appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.