Also, another amazing utility is called onyx. It'll do everything accept clean my house and do the laundry. Lol. Just do a google search for onyx. On 2011-03-14, at 2:54 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
> Hi Eric > > Have you tried some of the general maintenance things such as utilities first > aid, verifying and repairing permissions, or doing any re-installs? It would > seem to me that if this problem is occurring that often, you could get it to > reproduce for one of the geniuses at your Apple store and seek some > resolution. If you are running windows on this machine, is it possible that > there is a conflict caused by the two systems clashing? > Just a couple of my thoughts. > Carolyn HOn Mar 14, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > >> zack, >> I am definitely NOT overstating the problem here. I get random failures, and >> not just in mail either. It happens so often that I am seriously considering >> dumping OS X and installing VINUX. This problem has been occurring with such >> frequency that I might as well keep my machine off then use it (more than 20 >> times a day). I use this machine as often as I do because I simply don't >> have a windows machine and my powerbook is linux only now (no voiceover >> support for 10.3.9). >> >> so, I am left with a choice of having to dump an OS I paid for on a $800 >> machine and do without some of the tools I use daily or spend another $1,500 >> to $2,000 for a fully outfitted windows machine with JAWS. since I don't >> have the money, I don't see a lot of choices. >> >> -Eric >> >> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: >> >>> Hi Eric, >>> I think you're overstating the case a bit here... Yes, it's annoying, but >>> I haven't found it that annoying. I haven't experienced it as often as >>> others here seem to, and the times I have, a quick command-f5 or two solves >>> it. Yes, let's email accessibility about this, but let's not loose our >>> sense of perspective. It could be much worse, we could be stuck on Windows >>> with a screen reader not built into the OS, which when it freezes requires >>> us to reboot the system completely. I'll stop now. >>> Best, >>> Zack. >>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: >>> >>>> this has been a known problem since the inception of snow leopard. I have >>>> seen it on all versions 10.6.x and it hasn't gotten any better with time. >>>> it appears that it may be a memory leak or a broken library. in any case, >>>> it is annoying as hell. I have sent many notices to accessibility. its >>>> gotten bad enough that I may start sending bug reports to steve jobs >>>> directly. perhaps he'll give the dev team a swift kick in the pants to >>>> make this a priority,. perhaps if more of us would do so, it would garner >>>> enough attention that apple Inc. would have to do something about this >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> -Eric >>>> >>>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>> >>>>> Robert, although the problem is annoying, this approach you described >>>>> might at least be a usable work-around. I will try it the next time >>>>> Voice Over abandons me. Thank you very much. >>>>> >>>>> To all of you who wrote, thank you. Sometimes, the only way to recover >>>>> has been to just hit the Power key, wait a second or so and then just >>>>> press Enter. Not an elegant solution, but at least it has worked since >>>>> "Shut Down" is the default selection in this dialogue.. I will >>>>> definitely post a message to the Accessibility Group, apprising them of >>>>> something they probably already know by now. >>>>> >>>>> My best to all and thanks again, >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> On 14,Mar,2011, at 4:50 PM, Robert Carter wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have this problem on my MacBook as well. I find that the easiest way >>>>>> to get VoiceOver restarted is to press control+option+command+f8. This >>>>>> starts the VoiceOver tutorial. As soon as the tutorial starts, press >>>>>> escape and VoiceOver will restart. I hope this problem gets fixed soon. >>>>>> >>>>>> It must be unique to the MacBooks as I cannot produce the problem on my >>>>>> iMac. >>>>>> >>>>>> Robert Carter >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am using Snow Leopard V 10.6.6 on a Mac Book with 4 GB/RAM. For >>>>>>> reasons I do not understand, I occasionally lose Voice Over, especially >>>>>>> when I am using Mail. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Though the problem is not limited to Mail, Voice Over just seems to >>>>>>> "unload itself," and the only thing I can do is repeatedly hit Command >>>>>>> F5 until VO decides to make an appearance. Its disappearance is >>>>>>> apparently random, i.e. I can't make it disappear at will. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Has anyone else encountered this problem? If not, what might be >>>>>>> causing it? 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