Hi Tony, Thanks for the note. Frankly it's hard to understand why so many former JFW users claim on this list that they never look back because web navigation (which is becoming increasingly ubiquitous in application dialogs) is totally substandard by any objective analysis.
It was challenging, but possible to update my JawBone Jambox in MSIE. Don't even think about attempting this task in Safari. The tables on braille.wunderground.com are so much easier to navigate in Windows. Yes it's possible to ascertain information such as current conditions and records, but the process is far to time consuming. I always book flights on Southwest or peruse my supermarket's weekly adds in Windows for the same reason. Up till now I suspected I was missing something obvious because the only alternative possibility is that this list is completely populated with coo laid drinking cheer leaders who are totally out of touch with reality! I will compose a note to the accessibility team, but suspect web navigation might have been implemented much better had the former switchers afforded themselves a modicum of objectivity rather than focusing on the price of the screen reader (which in the case of web navigation is worth every penny we pay for it). Best regards. Geoff On May 13, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Tony Hernandez wrote: > Hi Geoff. > > I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but VO in Safari doesn't seem to > support the functionality you're referring to. Vo doesn't navigate the > document in the word-processor-like style you're used to in JFW. I'm a JFW > user as well, and I lament this issue very much for the exact same reason > you do, reading/copying code. I wrote to Apple about it and explained this > style of web navigation and requested that they make it an option in VO in > addition to the other methods already available. I sent the note 2 or 3 days > ago, so we'll see what happens. I suggest you do the same. The address is > accessibil...@apple.com > > Tony Hernandez > http://dutyofman.net/ > Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep His > commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every > work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether > it be evil. (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14) > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Waaler > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 12:17 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Virtual viewer in Safari? > > Greetings, > > When I read code examples from URL: > http://www.switchonthecode.com/tutorials/an-absolute-beginners-guide-to-ipho > ne-development via JFW and FireFox/MSIE, the lines appear correctly in > Jaws's virtual viewer. > > When I navigate via Safari in OSX 10.6.7, however there is no easy way to > copy/paste lines of code or even to easily discern where a line ends. I > tried both DOM and group modes and the reader (command-shift-r), but have > not yet discovered a way to read lines of code as they are written. > > When I use the trackpad, only the part of the line under my finger is read. > My VO utility setting to announce all punctuation is apparently ignored > because characters such as the equal sign are not verbalized as I move over > them, but are visible to voiceOver when I use the "move right" command > (right flick or vo-arrow). When I interact, only part of the line is > displayed. I attempted to select all and copy to a file in the textEdit > application, but the result was also unreadable. > > I feel as though I must be missing something because many here are using OSX > exclusively to navigate the web, yet I repeatedly see examples such as the > one illustrated above where tasks are difficult or impossible to perform in > Safari which can be done easily in JFW. > > TIA for any/all suggestions other than my current solution of reading the > page in JFW and manually copying lines into xCode. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
