Hello everyone. Does anyone know how to open applications or folders on IPhones 
with a Bluetooth keyboard? Is there a VO help key for Bluetooth keyboards on 
IPhones?

Thanks so much. 

On Jun 8, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Kliph&Sharrie <skhleirpehctcoens7...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> what is the address to the mac access list?  I could use all the pointers and 
> help I can get!  Thanks.
> 
> Sent from Minister Miller's IPhone
> 
> On Jun 8, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Esther <mori...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ray,
>> 
>> I wasn't going to comment on the answer Chris gave, but as far as using the 
>> Control key instead of the Command key in movement combinations, Apple 
>> started supporting that for text navigation in iOS documents with Bluetooth 
>> keyboards.  I suppose that was because some Bluetooth keyboards have Control 
>> keys, but no Command keys (or Windows keys).  So if you are using selecting 
>> text on an iPhone with a Bluetooth keyboard, Control+Shift+Up arrow will 
>> work as well as Command+Shift+Up arrow to select all text from your current 
>> position to the beginning of the document.  And Control+Shift+Down Arrow 
>> will work as well as Command+Shift+Down Arrow to select to the end.  This 
>> actually changed in different iOS 4 releases with Bluetooth keyboard 
>> support.  And at one point Control+Shift+Up arrow would make the selection, 
>> but VoiceOver wouldn't announce it.  
>> 
>> Most of the keyboard shortcuts with Option key combinations that work on the 
>> Mac also work on the iOS devices, but a few of the combinations still don't 
>> get announced.  And at the very beginning, some of the familiar 
>> combinations, like Option+Shift+K for the "Apple" icon didn't even work.  
>> This is the reason that I haven't posted an official list of the Option 
>> command keyboard shortcuts for the iPhone --  some of them are still 
>> changing.  The most recent set got posted to the mac-access list, with lots 
>> of annotations about which combinations worked, but VoiceOver didn't 
>> announce (mostly math symbols), and which few worked only for OS X and not 
>> iOS devices.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:56, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, actually, Chris, you are not as far off the mark as you think.  
>>> FN+shift+left and FN+shift+right do in fact select to beginning and to end 
>>> respectively.  So, of course, do command+shift+up to slect to begining and 
>>> command+shift+down to select to end.  Both work equally well.
>>> 
>>> That business about the control key...we won't go there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 8, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>> 
>>>> OK, Teresa's correct, don't even listen to my previous post response.  I 
>>>> do this so regularly I don't even think about it.  frankly, I don't know 
>>>> what I was thinking a second ago.  Teresa's exactly right.  Shows what I 
>>>> know. LOL!  Here's for a senior moment!
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teresa Cochran" 
>>>> <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:19 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: editing?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> command-shift-up and command-shift-down
>>>>> 
>>>>> Teresa
>>>>> On Jun 8, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, like I said before, I send email to multiple resipients.  And 
>>>>>> sometimes I need to get rid of previous senders and headers.  So how 
>>>>>> would I select to the end and beginning of a document or email?  Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>> 
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