I'm not totally sure yet if Apple is aware of this problem or not, but I'm 
gonna call them here in a few minutes when they open.  

Chris.

On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Well, all I know is this.  Yesterday, My poor Mac book pro was indeed running 
> very very hot; but, today, not so.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
> 
>> I understand, and completely agree. I just knew something wasn't quite right 
>> when I was running Lion, so for now at least,
>> I'm happy I've downgraded. Does apple know about the cause of the 
>> over-heating now? If not, I can mention it to them; have an
>> appointment to talk to a rep in a couple of hours regarding my midi playback 
>> issue. I'll be booting from my external drive
>> that has Lion on it, but will wait til the last minute prior to the call to 
>> do so. I don't want my computer to be toasted.
>> (smile)
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
>> Gilland
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:34 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
>> 
>> The thing is that Spotlight, yes, can be easily disabled.  If you follow all
>> my steps up until I start going into Terminal, in theory, that should! work,
>> but the reason I did the terminal work is just to absolutely beyond a doubt
>> be certained that it wouldn't try pulling anything stupid in the background
>> unknowingly, as frankly, I dono about you Missy, but, I don't like
>> surprises, nor over-heated logicboards, as they don't taste too good when
>> cooked for dinner.  LOL!
>> 
>> Take care.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Missy Hoppe" <melis...@fuse.net>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:15 AM
>> Subject: RE: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi! I'd definitely be interested in learning how to disable spotlight the
>>> safe way. Those instructions sent earlier were way
>>> over my little head, that's for sure! I have no doubt that they'd work,
>>> but as I read them, all I could think was: "Or... Go
>>> back to SL until Lion is fised." If spotlight can be disabled simply and
>>> safely in sl too, though, I'd love instructions on
>>> that. Might that be something you'd cover in an up-coming podcast?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:12 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
>>> 
>>> I actually have spot light disabled in snow leppard as well. If cocktail
>>> works with lion, I will use it to disable spot
>>> light, it will do this by unchecking one option. I know where I keep
>>> everything on my computer, so I have no need for
>>> spotlight, those resources are better used for other things.
>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for
>>>> the faint at heart.  It's all software-sided, you
>>> won't be taking things apart, LOL!  but it's still ***not!*** something I
>>> advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow
>>> my instructions to, a, T!
>>>> 
>>>> Again, let's get a few things straight:  I, nor any mods, nor any
>>>> members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything
>>> that may occur from doing th3e following process.  You agree by doing this
>>> to hold everyone on the list including myself as
>>> well as Apple totally blameless.  Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a
>>> sure fix.
>>>> 
>>>> First of all, the problem at hand:
>>>> 
>>>> I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've
>>>> determined that it's the mds server daemon that is
>>> causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85
>>> degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice!
>>> gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be!
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way
>>>> Spotlight in Lion indexes things.  for those who like
>>> Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but
>>> I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when
>>> your logicboard fries from overheating.  I say this not to scare you, but,
>>> realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans
>>> will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as
>>> hot.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I
>>>> am saying again and again after again, You! do
>>> this soly! at your own risk!
>>>> 
>>>> Let's get started!  I'll say again, follow me to a T!  If you don't, then
>>>> don't look at me if something doesn't work, or
>>> breaks.
>>>> 
>>>> 1.  Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened,
>>>> obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep
>>> reading how to do this.
>>>> 
>>>> 2.  Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight
>>>> 
>>>> 3.  On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and
>>>> interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck
>>> every? single one! of the boxes on each row.  I know, you're going WTF!
>>> That's gonna disable my spotlight!  Yes. It will.
>>> You're correct.  %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update
>>> comes out gonna fix this.  I'm sorry, it's either this,
>>> or have an over-heating logicboard.
>>>> 
>>>> 4.  Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button.
>>>> 
>>>> .  In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit
>>>> command+shift+C to go to computer.
>>>> 
>>>> 6.  locate Macintosh HD.  don't! open it, just arrow to and select it.  I
>>>> repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it.
>>>> 
>>>> 7.  Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button,
>>>> or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly.
>>>> 
>>>> 8.  When told this could effect other applications from the search
>>>> feature working, just say yes/ok to add it to the
>>> exclusions list.  Trust me, you'll be fine.
>>>> 
>>>> 9.  Press command+W to close System Preferences.
>>>> 
>>>> O? K!  Now, for the really brutal work!  I know I've said this before,
>>>> but I say again, follow me, to? a, T!
>>>> 
>>>> 1.  Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O on
>>>> terminal.app.
>>>> 
>>>> 2.  Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing
>>>> 
>>>> sudo mdsutil -a -i off
>>>> 
>>>> Then press return.
>>>> 
>>>> Type your administrator password, then hit return.
>>>> 
>>>> Great!  Now indexing should be disabled.
>>>> 
>>>> 3.  Now, unload the spotlight daemonn by typing:
>>>> 
>>>> sudo launchctl unload -w
>>>> /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata/mds/plist
>>>> 
>>>> Then press return.  You may again need to enter your password, but
>>>> probably not.
>>>> 
>>>> If you get a message that the daemon already is unloaded, then you're
>>>> done! If not, that should unload things, at which
>>> point you're done, either way!
>>>> 
>>>> Now, if you really wanna be a smart butt, and totally make the spotllight
>>>> menu bar item totally vannish for the time being,
>>> in terminal type the following two commands.  I should add all these
>>> commands are case sensitive, so if you messed up above,
>>> it's ok, you didn't do any harm, just go do 'em again.
>>>> 
>>>> Here's the command to make the spotlight disappear.  I'd not advise doing
>>>> this, but if you really? want to, here's what to
>>> type:
>>>> 
>>>> sudo chmod 600
>>>> /System/Library/CoreServices/Search.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Search
>>>> 
>>>> Then for the change to take effect, type:
>>>> 
>>>> killall SystemUIServer
>>>> 
>>>> And hit return.
>>>> 
>>>> Then quit Terminal with command+Q.
>>>> 
>>>> Boom!  Congradulations, no more spotlight, and boom! no more hot
>>>> computer!
>>>> 
>>>> Once I've been notified that Apple has made an update to address this,
>>>> I'll write another e-mail post on how to undo all
>>> this crap.
>>>> 
>>>> Again, I didn't say this was for the faint of heart, and if something
>>>> blew up in your face along the way, again, I didn't
>>> say! to do this!  I said, do it soly at your own risk.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
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