Hello,
This brings up another question.
When reinstalling Lion, how does a VoiceOver user access the internet from the 
recovery drive?
In other words:
1. The computer has been rebooted using Command R at the chime.
2. VO using Fred has been started.
3. Now it's time to start the reinstall process for a clean install.
4. The OS wants to verify the machines serial number with Apple.
Now the question comes in to play. How does a blind VO user access a wired 
internet service?
When I emailed Apple's Accessibility group, they just said that they were 
working on this problem.
Any suggestions?
TIA.

Dan

On Sep 17, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi Ioana, and Teresa,
> Because of a message by Ricardo Walker,I now know I forgot to mention a 
> simpler option. If lion is already installed Iona, you could also reinstall a 
> clean lion from the recovery partition. When lion installs, not only will it 
> simply install into macintosh hd, but a separate, hidden partition will also 
> be created by the lion installer. If you already have lion, no matter if it 
> was installed by the previous mac owner, the recovery partition will be 
> there. Shut down the mac, start it, and during the chime sound, hit, and keep 
> holding, command r. These 2 keys will boot the mac from its lion recovery 
> partition. After some ten seconds you can be sure the recovery partition is 
> booting and you can let go of command r. After 2 minutes or so it will be 
> booted. Probably less, but after you give it some time, hit command f5 to 
> turn voiceover on. Fred will help you from there.
> Hth,
> Paul.
> On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:14 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Ioana,
>> 
>> Once the OS is installed, the installer package deletes itself. You could 
>> try looking in the applications folder for it on the off-chance it was 
>> replaced ther by the previous owner, but it's unlikely to be there. Sorry.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Paul and list,Given that the previous owner downloaded the file, would 
>>> he not have an instaler somewhere on the mac?
>>> Regardless, I did sign out of his account in the app store and signed in 
>>> with mine (I already had one for my iPhone) and searched for lion. 
>>> unfortunately I could not buy it since it showed a dimmed installed button. 
>>> I have the sno leopard dvd that came with the mac and I suppose I could 
>>> erase the drive and install from that and upgrade.
>>> Any better way you can think of?
>>> 
>>> assuming I have to do what I outlined above, how do I start? Have to erase 
>>> first and start the install from dvd?
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much!
>>> 
>>> A very excited newbie.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Sent from my phone)
>>> 
>>> Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.
>>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Iona,
>>>> I don't think you need the apple id of the previous owner. However, you do 
>>>> need to get hold of the lion installer app. Which is over 3 gigabytes. 
>>>> Normally, you download this from the app store. Do you have an apple ID of 
>>>> your own yet? If you do, when asked for your apple ID, you can fill in 
>>>> your own, so that lion can be payed for, using your own apple  ID. If you 
>>>> don't have one yet, you can create one in each dialog where you are asked 
>>>> for it. You can then put money on to that apple account using either 
>>>> itunes gift cards, attaching your credit card to it, or you can put money 
>>>> on the apple ID by using services like click and buy.
>>>> 
>>>> Once you have the lion app from the app store, there is a way to burn that 
>>>> onto a dvd. Alternatively, you can put the installer on a usb stick. 
>>>> Either way, you then boot from cd or usb stick, install lion, all with 
>>>> speech support along your way, then perform software updates, and then 
>>>> start to use it by installing apps and putting your own data on it.
>>>> But now that you still have a mac with someone else's installation, the 
>>>> first thing to do is get hold of the lion installer app. For that, you 
>>>> need an apple account or apple ID. Then you must make sure that you can do 
>>>> purchases with it, and then you can download the lion installer from app 
>>>> store. Let's start with that. If you have questions along the way, just 
>>>> ask. When you have the installer, say so and we can try to help further.
>>>> Hth,    
>>>> Paul.
>>>> On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>> 
>>>>> As I mentioned in previous posts, I have a 2nd hand mac mini with lion 
>>>>> installed that I would like to reset from beginning to change operating 
>>>>> system language and other settings.
>>>>> 
>>>>> During install, do I require the Apple ID and password of previous owner 
>>>>> and purchaser of lion? 
>>>>> Could you recommend a guide of re--installing lion?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ioana
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