Well, we could have a feature off. Does the mp3 player have a search feature allowing you to search through thousands of songs? Create and edit playlists on the device? Purchase music and download it wirelessly? Download audible books and podcasts wirelessly? Have access to 15,000 internet radio streams? Provide you with music recognition? This is of course scratching the surface, and some of what you mentioned, mp3 audio books, ogg and flac, the iPhone will do. An mp3 player blowing the iPhone out of the water on feature sets, quality, and ease of use seems like less of a "no brainer" than you suggest.
But this is really beside the point. The initial discussion was sparked by your comment: >>>> It's ten bucks for a money reader? Why not just get a bank of canada one >>>> for free? If you still don't see why someone would pay the ten bucks, I'm probably not going to change your mind. If I suggested that the iPhone competes feature for feature with things like GPS units, mp3 players, cameras, etc, I didn't intend to. The point is that, where an app allows you to accomplish what you would normally accomplish with a stand-alone device, then being willing to pay a small amount of money for the app even when the device is free doesn't seem that strange to me. Cheers, Marc On 2011-09-27, at 1:49 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > Well, the MP3 player is a bit of a no brainer. It's cheep, less than a > hundred bucks. I get 30 hours of listening on a single charge which is > important for me since I'm often on the road for 12 hour days. It plays ogg > which is not so important to me, but it also plays flac which is crucial. It > will let me use SD cards without buying an expensive and proprietary adapter. > it bookmarks up to 10 folders for me on the fly and can bookmark up to 10 > places in each folder. It lets me control settings like bass, trebble, and > gain and it has a limiter preamp and a host of other settings which I can use > to improve the listening experience for various types of audio. It has a > fully adjustable crossfader, All features are fully self-voicing. I can > play audiobooks in standard MP3, and I can copy and paste files with no > benighted piece of bloatware to hoof music and books from computer to player > and back. > > The camera I use is ridiculously expensive and there are lots of things to > love or love to hate about it. On the love side, it's on a monopod so I > don't have to worry about holding the camera straight or at the appropriate > height. It auto focusses so I don't have to worry about not lining up the > shot properly. It has a provision for automatically taking multiple pictures > for cases such as scanning books, and it has a motion sensor to take the new > picture when I flip a page. It gives me easy access to both the image file > and the converted OCR and I can convert to mp3 on the fly if I want. > > Barcode reader $300 bucks it's omny directional so I don't have to know where > to point. It comes with several databases onboard. Need I go on? > > it sucks to pay a lot of money for stuff that the IPhone sorta does for free > or very cheep, but honestly it's not really there yet and I need technology > that works. I just don't have the patience anymore to mess around and force > things into line, although I'm very happy for the people who have persevered > and gotten some things to work well for them. > > Best, > > Erik Burggraaf > This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When > will it be supported? Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference > Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit: > http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com > Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 > or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2011-09-27, at 3:27 PM, Marc Workman wrote: > >> I'm curious how your stand alone mp3 player and camera blow the iPhone's >> "out of the water" in terms of feature sets, quality, and ease of use. >> >> It sounds like you agree, though, that where the equivalent functionality >> can be gotten out of an app, the app would be preferable to the stand-alone >> device. Is there something the stand-alone money reader does that the app >> doesn't? I think it's actually the other way around given the variety of >> currencies that can be identified. >> >> I think I would prefer fewer stand-alone devices even at home. It's not >> just about carrying them, but losing and recharging. My phone also always >> tends to be on hand. There's obviously a risk to the swiss-army-knife >> approach, eggs, basket, etc, but I do think there are good reasons for >> preferring the money reader app over the free stand-alone device, and so I'm >> glad the developer listened to my and others' calls for including Canadian >> currency rather than thinking it unnecessary, like some may have implied, >> given the free stand-alone device. >> >> Regards, >> >> Marc >> On 2011-09-27, at 11:57 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> The problem with my separate mp3 player, gps, camera OCR, and so on is that >>> they all blow the eyephone out of the water when it comes to feature sets, >>> quality, and ease of use. So, while I feel like a dope walking around with >>> my pockets stuffed and bulging with with kit, not to mention paying for >>> each tool A la Cart, the fact is I'm more comfortable with the separate >>> tools than the IPhone. Now, if the tools on the IPhone do what you need >>> and your requirements aren't that steep, there's nothing at all wrong with >>> buying an IPhone and letting fly. >>> >>> I don't usually bother carrying the money reader. If I don't know what my >>> bills are, I sort them before I leave the house. Anything else can usually >>> be taken care of using the markers on the money. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Erik Burggraaf >>> This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When >>> will it be supported? Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference >>> Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit: >>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com >>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> On 2011-09-27, at 11:21 AM, Marc Workman wrote: >>> >>>> Agree with Ricardo. >>>> >>>> Why not carry a separate daisy player, mp3 player, colour identifier, >>>> light detector, gps unit, money identifier, camera, etc. Even if these >>>> were all available for free, I would rather pay a relatively small fee to >>>> have them all available on a single device. >>>> >>>> It's also worth noting that Looktel announced that the price was going up >>>> for version 2. So many Canadians, myself included, were able to pick it >>>> up at the version 1 price of either 1.99 or 2.99, I can't recall exactly. >>>> Ten dollars is a bit steep, but I thought that the initial price was less >>>> than people would be willing to pay, and I would still encourage canadians >>>> to pick it up, assuming it identifies our currency as well as it did the >>>> US's. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Marc >>>> On 2011-09-27, at 5:57 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>> >>>>> Another advantage is is its 1 less thing to carry. A person is more >>>>> likely to forget their money reader at home than their phone I would >>>>> think. >>>>> >>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>>>> www.mobileaccess.org >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:44 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That we do, Have for over 15 years. Our government had certain >>>>>> accessibility standards back as early as 1990. Not that all of them >>>>>> were worth the paper they were printed on, but the money identification >>>>>> one has been taken very seriously by bank of canada. The old gadget >>>>>> they put out first was a bit lame but the new one is super. I Told gary >>>>>> at looktel that we already had a free piece that covered all the bases, >>>>>> but as you say, for some one travelling either two or from canada the >>>>>> IPhone app is quite useful. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Erik Burggraaf >>>>>> This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion >>>>>> When will it be supported? Ebony Consulting at accessibility >>>>>> Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit: >>>>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com >>>>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>>>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2011-09-27, at 8:25 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> IDK, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What if you do some traveling? BTW, you guys hand out money readers >>>>>>> for free? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>>>>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:24 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's ten bucks for a money reader? Why not just get a bank of canada >>>>>>>> one for free? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Erik Burggraaf >>>>>>>> This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion >>>>>>>> When will it be supported? Ebony Consulting at accessibility >>>>>>>> Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit: >>>>>>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com >>>>>>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>>>>>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2011-09-27, at 8:07 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I believe that the version will show up as 2. However if everything >>>>>>>>> is as it normally is, even if you buy now it will be a free update to >>>>>>>>> version 2. Having said that, I am waiting till I see the correct >>>>>>>>> version before putting down the money. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2011, at 10:02 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi list, >>>>>>>>>> When hearing that the new money reader would support canadian money >>>>>>>>>> finally, I went to the app store to find it, however, the one in the >>>>>>>>>> canadian store says 1.10 or something. I don't want to spend $10 on >>>>>>>>>> it if its the wrong one. 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