Even without self-voicing, I find apps like Adium and Skype quite accessible.  
It might be less convenient but I wouldn't call it less accessible.  


On Oct 7, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> I guess I'm looking at it as an equal access question. If I want a chat 
> communications app to be 'accessible' then it wasn't unreasonable to download 
> and configure Growl to make that happen. Not quite equal but quite doable, 
> like adding a screen reader. So do we cross some line when a chat app now 
> needs you to download and buy another app to be acccessible and/or 
> download/compile a free version to get a usable interface. If the answer is 
> no then we're done. If it does cross the line then we need to push upstream 
> and let the chat app developers know we need self-voicing at least for 
> incoming messages.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 10/6/11 5:17 PM, Darcy Burnard wrote:
>> 
>> Apparently it's still an open source project, and the $2 is to support the 
>> project.  According to an article I read on I think Mac World, the source 
>> code is still available from the growl site.  So if you know how to build 
>> something from source, you could go that route.  
>> Darcy
>> 
>> On 2011-10-06, at 10:13 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, it's not a wallet breaker, but should you have to pay another $2 to 
>>> make a free chat app accessible?
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 10/5/11 9:12 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If it's 2 bucks I'm gonna pay and be happy to have the service.  It's so 
>>>> useful that apple should just buy it and build it into the OS.
>>>> 
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>>>> On 2011-10-05, at 2:49 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> So I just had somebody ping me about upgrading to Lion and how they would 
>>>>> need to update Growl but now it was $2 instead of free. This got me 
>>>>> wondering. For many chat apps, or at least the ones I use often like 
>>>>> Skype, AIM and Adium, Growl is the common way to get incoming messages 
>>>>> read. If it's no longer a free solution for these otherwise free apps, 
>>>>> should these chat apps now go back and start adding self-voicing to their 
>>>>> incoming messages? I know AIM has this feature today but others got a bit 
>>>>> of a pass because Growl could take care of it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> CB
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