My other concern with this would be that not all places where you use a keyboard are capable of being used in landscape orientation. I don't know if apple would implement a keyboard that could only be used in landscape. On Mar 2, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Sean Murphy <mhysnm1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am in the same camp as Scott. I am not sure if the Braille input will work > effectively. The design of the screen will have to be universally flexible > for all hand sizes. On top of that you will not get the physical feedback > that you get on other Braille Input devices. > > I am always willing to try. But good luck in getting Apple to put it in. They > are a very much a close shop. > > Sean > On 28/02/2012, at 9:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Would this app be able to write in grade 2 braille? I am a braille user as >> stating in another message, I use a braille display. >> >> Kawal. >> On 27 Feb 2012, at 17:23, James Mannion wrote: >> >>> Although there is no harm in wanting something to be completely >>> optional and available for someone to use, I am definitely not sold on >>> it until it is out and proven that it really is at all something I >>> like using. I don't think it makes a lot of sense either to be making >>> a push for something to be incorporated into the system that none of >>> us have really even had the chance to try because it is not available >>> yet. One could just as easily prefer the TypeIn Braille input app as >>> an optional keyboard. I have been playing with the TypeInBraille app >>> actually and I see some possible advantage in having it as a tool. I >>> agree with what I think someone said about that app that in noisy >>> environments where you might want to do character input and you need >>> to use the touch screen without being able to hear as much, it allows >>> for what is arguably more predictable places to touch the screen >>> without error to get what you need. I am going to continue to play >>> with and make use of that at times to see how fast I am able to get >>> with it. I really do not mind the on screen keyboard as long as I can >>> hear the feedback from it and as long as it is not an instance where >>> there is lag in its feedback. Where more speed is needed I have always >>> been happy with bluetooth keyboard or dictation options. More options >>> are always good. >>> >>> On 2/27/12, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote: >>>> Wanted answer the assertion of Android being more flexible. While anyone >>>> could add a different keyboard to Android, I'm not clear how that would >>>> get universally baked in so that anyone pickup an Android phone would >>>> get this option. It's the same problem that if you want it baked into >>>> Android you would have to get Google to do it. Of course you could argue >>>> whether Apple or Google is more receptive to making this addition but >>>> it's still something that has to be done by the platform owner. I think >>>> what we don't want is some kind of extra thing you have to know about, >>>> download and install. >>>> >>>> CB >>>> >>>> On 2/26/12 5:58 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>>>> Here is one reason among many why android is much more flexible, adding >>>>> this functionality will not have any restrictions. Yes, Apple does not >>>>> allow adding other keyboards, or input methods as they might be called. >>>>> The thing is, if Apple allows this one, other developers will want to do >>>>> the same thing. That may not be a bad thing, alternative keyboards may be >>>>> a good thing, but I would not count on Apple changing their policy on this >>>>> one. Also their thought could be, the built in on screen keyboard is >>>>> already accessible, why not use that? That is a valid point, guess time >>>>> will tell on this one. >>>>> On Feb 26, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> There has been much discussion about the new Braille Touch app lately. >>>>>> For anyone who missed it, this is an app coming out sometime this year >>>>>> that lets users type in braille on an iOS or Android device. >>>>>> Basically, you hold the device sideways, the home button to your right >>>>>> or left. You then place three fingers on either end of the screen and >>>>>> start typing. This beats the current braille entry app out there >>>>>> because (1) it will be free and (2) it lets you enter the character >>>>>> all at once, not a row at a time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is where it needs your help: Apple's developer guidelines and >>>>>> terms of service state that, basically, no app can add its own >>>>>> keyboard to the keyboards available in iOS. this means that there is >>>>>> no way to use the braille keyboard outside the app; no writing texts >>>>>> or emails with it, no using it to do a search, no nothing. Yes, you >>>>>> can use the app and then copy and paste, but if you just want to write >>>>>> a quick email, add a contact, or even edit a document, you can't take >>>>>> advantage of braille. Apple needs to know that we (blind and visually >>>>>> impaired users of iOS) want and need this functionality in iOS. Please >>>>>> take a couple minutes to send a message to accessibil...@apple.com. >>>>>> Tell them you want them to include Braille Touch's keyboard in iOS so >>>>>> that it can be used where ever you need to enter text, in place of the >>>>>> on-screen QWERTY keyboard that iOS currently forces you to use. Point >>>>>> out that this keyboard transforms the iOS line of products from PDAs >>>>>> with great accessibility into true braille devices. Most of all, tell >>>>>> them how important it is to you that this feature be included >>>>>> system-wide as soon as possible. Offer any further suggestions, >>>>>> testimonials, and anything else you think will help, but please take >>>>>> the time to send accessibil...@apple.com a message asking them to take >>>>>> this massive step into the future of accessibility. Thanks for your >>>>>> time and effort. Also, please send this request to anyone else who can >>>>>> help (other lists, friends or family who use iOS, braille instructors >>>>>> familiar with iOS... anyone). Remember that the more interest Apple >>>>>> sees in this, the more likely they are to take notice and do something >>>>>> about it. They have always been good at listening to feedback from >>>>>> their accessibility market, so let's take advantage of that to push >>>>>> for this braille keyboard. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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