Well, I guess I am not as convinced as you are. The truth is it really is all about the money, and rich publishers figure they aren't going to make much money off of blind people anyway, so why should they give in because they have the money and the control and they would just as soon keep it that way.

If blind folks would tell Amazon that the blind are going to start a campeign to publically advertise the lame way that they have bowed to the publishers and that every attempt would be made to convince people not to buy from Amazon until they changed their actions then maybe they might get somewhere.

But, I know a whole lot of blind people who complain about Kindell and go right ahead and purchase all kinds of other things from Amazon. So, if they really want to get the point accross they had better be willing to stop making any purchases from Amazon until it starts to hurt a little. If you tell them you want them to change then don't keep giving them any business until they wise up and change Kindell.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: Kindle App on iPhone


lol,

I agree its stupid but, I doubt these people huddled up in a corner and said, " lets figure out away to steel money from a population base which extremely small, and has a 70% unemployment rate. I just think their paranoid about sighted people taking advantage of this, not how to make an extra buck off blind folks.

JMO.

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On Mar 22, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:

That's not quite true. It's not because of copy right. The truth is this. It's because of the Author's guild. They don't want the blind to be able to read their books without extra costs. Their twisted reasoning is that the text to speech technology will rob them of sales. Every single organization of the blind is fighting this stupid infantile logic.


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On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Hank Smith wrote:

so because of stupid drm copy write crap the blind can't read the ebooks?
On 3/22/2012 6:30 PM, Esther wrote:
Hi Jeff,

There are a number of ebook apps that specifically disable VoiceOver's ability to access the content in order to preserve digital rights management. This is also true if you try to use the Barnes & Noble Nook app, for example. You'll notice that usually you can access everything except for the actual content of the text. That's being blocked. You can verify this by taking a screen capture, and sending the results to an OCR app like Prizmo or TextGrabber. The OCR app will tell you what the contents are, but obviously you're not going to read the book by screen capturing every page and sending it to an OCR app.

If you want to read another example of this viewpoint, that the ability of screen readers to access text would promote copyright violation, take a look at Greg Kearney's posted response from Fictionwise in the archives, sent in reply to his inquiry about ebook accessibility for their ebook reading app just a few months after the iPhone 3GS was released with VoiceOver support:
• Fwd: Response for Support Ticket #102495
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg06200.html
Since this is the Mail Archive post, if you're reading on your computer, you can also use access key shortcuts of Control-N to read down the thread for other reader comments.

Best,

Esther

On Mar 22, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Forget it.  It ain't gonna happen.

It ain't accessible at all.


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On Mar 22, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:

Hi All,

I downloaded the Kindle app so I can read some of the books that my wife is reading. I can't, however, figure out how to get it to work. Has anybody had success with the Kindle app? Is it accessible? Any tips?

It looks like, to me, that it is displaying images instead of rendering the text.

Thx,
Jeff


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