Hi Les,

There is a known bug in the latest update that affects the listing of items.  
It is especially annoying when in the list of TV Shows from your given 
computer.  It does not appear to arrange them properly.  In fact, if you have a 
large number of TV shows in your Library, it's almost impossible to locate what 
you want whether your sighted or a VO user.  For this bug, I've used my Remote 
app on my iPhone/iPad and everything works as it should using this method.  I 
suggested it as a workaround on the Apple Discussions forum as well.  It 
appears that it has something to do with iTunes 10.6 and the latest ATV 
software.  I assume Apple will fix it soon but in the meantime, my Remote app 
is my best tool.

Later...

On 2012-03-26, at 5:04 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:

> Hi Tim,
> 
> You know, I intensely dislike the latest update to the Apple TV software that 
> I think I'm going to try the Apple TV App.  With MLB TV, I hear so much 
> garbage when I load the day's games that I cannot even listen for the scores 
> or schedules any more.  Also, VO isn't talking when the Main Menu comes up.  
> I've re-installed the update and it's still as bad or worse than it was when 
> I first updated.
> 
> Les
> On Mar 26, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> hi,
>> 
>> I tend to leave VO off the majority of the time and use the Remote app on my 
>> iPhone/iPad to control things.  My family tends to get a little annoyed with 
>> the ATV talking all the time so I've just found it easier that way.  When VO 
>> is off and I do wish to use the ATV itself, I've memorized the path to turn 
>> it on.  It's fairly easy, in my opinion, just to the following:
>> 
>> • Press and hold the menu button for six seconds or so to bring the ATV to 
>> the Main menu.  (or press the menu button lots of times until it seems like 
>> it's at the Main menu).  It should bonk at you if sounds are set up properly.
>> • Press the right arrow until it bonks, which will put you on the Settings 
>> item.  If yours doesn't bonk for some reason, just press it 7 or 8 times, 
>> that should get you there.
>> • Press the Select button twice, not a double press, just two times 
>> separated by a teeny bit so it will react properly.  This will put you in 
>> the General settings area.
>> • Press your down arrow until it bonks, then press the up arrow four times.  
>> This will place you on the Accessibility item.
>> • Press the Select button twice.  Same idea as earlier, don't press them so 
>> fast that it is like a double-press, just press it two times.
>> 
>> VO will now be on.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> On 2012-03-26, at 1:05 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, there's no way to mute VO. And as for the issue of starting
>>> VO during setup, I could never get that to work for me. Perhaps I was
>>> pressing the wrong button? Maybe I'll restore mine just for grins to test
>>> that.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marlaina Lieberg
>>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:22 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV questions
>>> 
>>> Is there any way to mute the Apple TV while playing music? It is very
>>> annoying to have it announced every song.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> It only works at the setup time or if you were to restore it.  As long as
>>> the ATV is connected to your TV or Stereo with the volume turned up to an
>>> appropriate level, the ATV will say "English" when it is ready for you to
>>> move forward with VO on.  At this point, simply press the Play button, lower
>>> right, three times.  Don't press it too fast or too slow, then VO will come
>>> on just fine.  If you press the Select button, center of the circle, the
>>> setup will move on without VO and you'll have to either unplug the ATV and
>>> start over or get sighted assistance as the triple-click will no longer work
>>> after this point.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> On 2012-03-26, at 8:02 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Ed,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately, the way they claim to turn on VoiceOver never worked for
>>> me.
>>>>> I had to have someone help me turn it on, even though it specifically 
>>>>> said I could do it by pressing the play/Pause button 3 times quickly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ed Worrell
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 8:45 AM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Apple TV questions
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello listers, I am here waiting for my Apple Tv to get here this
>>> mourning.
>>>>> Is there any things that I should know before I crack open the box 
>>>>> and start setting it up?
>>>>> I can't remember what button to press, but wasn't there a way to turn 
>>>>> on voiceover at start up?
>>>>> 
>>>>> And how is Airplay used from iPad to Apple Tv?
>>>>> Thanks, Ed
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