I confirmed when interacting with the table of messages in Mail clasic view I could only get the arrow keys to read the "Status" column. I believe even when VO-LEft to move over to the Subject tI was getting these symptoms. This is not the way VO worked with SNow Leopard. If you do one stop interacting, then the arrow keys will read the entire row of mail list columns.
Have a great night! Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On Apr 27, 2012, at 11:07 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote: > Jonathan, > VO says messages table, and I just use arrow keys to move up and down the > list. I hear everything when I just tab into the table. Hitting left and > right arrows together turn Quick nave on and then off. Here's an interesting > additional discovery. If I have two messages in a mailbox, all fields read > properly on the first. If I down-arrow, I only hear one field. If I shift-tab > back to the mailboxes table, then tab back to the messages table, I can hear > all the fields for the second message. I tried this on a friend-s mac > tonight. Until I had used her computer, she had only read mail in the inbox > and everything read fine. She asked me to go look at something in her sent > mail box. I did that and now her Mac behaves just like mine. Now I have two > computers to fix. <shriek!> > There is something happening which is caused by changing mailboxes in that > table. I'm sure baffled. > Thanks. > > Veronica > > Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ > Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at > http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com > Veronica Elsea, Owner > Laurel Creek Music Designs > Santa Cruz, California > Phone: 831-429-6407 > > On Apr 27, 2012, at 9:54 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > >> OK. Are you interacting with the message list? >> Are you using arrow keys or arrow kes with VO? >> Is the Subject in the Message list, but you are only hearing the from column? >> >> What happens when you hit left and right arrows at the same time twice? What >> does VO say to you? >> >> Jon >> >> Jonathan C. Cohn >> jonc...@cox.net >> >> >> >> On Apr 27, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote: >> >>> Quick nav is definitely off. Everything read just fine until I created a >>> bunch of new mailboxes. When I select a new mailbox, and go back to the >>> messages table, all fields are read for the first message, but not for any >>> of the rest of the messages. I can VO-right arrow to the rest of the >>> fields, but this is just so strange. If this were Window-eyes, I'd think >>> that adding mailboxes took up room on the screen. I'm just clueless right >>> now. <grin.> I await further ideas? >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Veronica >>> >>> Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ >>> Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at >>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com >>> Veronica Elsea, Owner >>> Laurel Creek Music Designs >>> Santa Cruz, California >>> Phone: 831-429-6407 >>> >>> On Apr 27, 2012, at 8:23 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >>> >>>> SOunds like you have quick nav on. Try turning it off and see if that is >>>> what you want. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> >>>> Jonathan >>>> >>>> Jonathan C. Cohn >>>> jonc...@cox.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 27, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi there! >>>>> In the messages table, I can VO-right arrow, I can find subject, sender, >>>>> etc. But before I created all of these other mailboxes, VO read all of >>>>> the status items each time I'd arrow through the messages column. When I >>>>> first open mail and it reads in my inbox, it read all of the fields. But >>>>> when I changed to my Mac Visionaries mailbox, no go! I'm also noticing >>>>> that mine says unread, image, blank, buddy, then sender and subject. A >>>>> friend's mac does not say blank. Is this controlled by a say blank >>>>> setting in VO? >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ >>>>> Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at >>>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com >>>>> Veronica Elsea, Owner >>>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs >>>>> Santa Cruz, California >>>>> Phone: 831-429-6407 >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 27, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I've only had limitted exposure to classic view in Mail but from what >>>>>> I remember, the subject, author, and date and whatever were in >>>>>> separate cells of the message list table so while interacting with the >>>>>> message table, try arrowing side to side in the table to see if you >>>>>> can hear a column of subjects. Also if your mail is threaded and you >>>>>> have it expanded, the subject might not show on the second and later >>>>>> messages in that thread. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the new view, arrowing up and down the message list gives me all >>>>>> that info in a single read for each entry. It also tells me if the >>>>>> thread is collapsed or expanded and if unread. That's one reason I >>>>>> wanted to stick to the newer view and now that I got the preview thing >>>>>> turned off, it's all good. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4/27/12, Veronica Elsea <veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com> wrote: >>>>>>> P.S. I realized that when I choose the mailbox to explore in the >>>>>>> mailboxes >>>>>>> table, then tab to the messages table, for the first message, it will >>>>>>> read >>>>>>> subject and who it was from. But when I down arrow to the next message, >>>>>>> all >>>>>>> I hear is image, unread. >>>>>>> Sorry about leaving out this detail. Thanks. >>>>>>> Veronica >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi everyone! >>>>>>>> In mail, using Lion, classic view, I just created a bunch of new >>>>>>>> mailboxes >>>>>>>> and then added rules which send all my list messages to the appropriate >>>>>>>> mailboxes. That was easy and works like a charm. However, just one >>>>>>>> snag. I >>>>>>>> navigate with up and down arrow in the mailboxes table till I find >>>>>>>> mailbox >>>>>>>> which contains unread messages. Then I tab to the messages table. As I >>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>> and down arrow around, it says image, unread, but does not read who the >>>>>>>> message is from or what the subject is. 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