Hi Shen,

When I'm logging in, no key presses work, not Command F5, and not the volume 
keys.

The other thing that's weird is when I get logged in, VO first says "Dictation 
IM has no windows".  I squirm around until I get out of that, and then end up 
in another window that says something like "System Core UI has no Windows."  
More squirming till I eventually get out of that.  It's all very odd.  And if I 
set login prefs to log in automatically, I have no issues, i.e. the Dictation 
And Core UI windows don't appear at all.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Shen <goalb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> Not sure why this is happening to you. Then again, I have strange
> things happen to my VoiceOver as well that I'm sure no one has
> experienced.
> Please do let me know what happens if you decide to call Apple
> Accessibility or bring your machine into the Genius Bar.
> Just out of curiosity, have you tried pressing Command-F5 at the login
> screen to see if VoiceOver starts or not?
> Let's say, that VoiceOver is running, but just isn't speaking. If you
> press Command-F5, that will then turn it off. Assuming nothing else is
> wrong, if you press Command-F5 again, it should come back on and you
> should hear speech.
> I know this is a pain in the butt.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/27/12, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>> Hi Matthew,
>> 
>> Well, glad I'm not the only one experiencing this.  I wrote to Apple
>> Accessibility also, so I'll let you know if I hear anything.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Matthew Campbell <wrestling.ch...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna.
>>> I to am seeing this. In my case, it seems to work every so often. I guess
>>> it needs to be in the right mood to work properly. *Smile*.
>>> I'm going to send a message to apple accessibility about this one and I'll
>>> report back on any feedback I get.
>>> 
>>> On 2012-07-27, at 9:28 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I've waited a good couple of minutes.  Also, when I interact and enter my
>>>> password, I am able to log in.  And I have done what you suggested.
>>>> Still not getting VO at login.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Donna
>>>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Shen <goalb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> How long are you waiting before realizing VoiceOver is not coming on? Is
>>>>> it possible the system is still booting up?
>>>>> Also, just for giggles, unchecked the checkbox for starting VoiceOver at
>>>>> the login screen. Close the Preferences, open it again and check the box
>>>>> again.
>>>>> I would do a complete shut down, then startup.
>>>>> Hope that will help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes it is checked.  I've now set my Mac to log in automatically, but I
>>>>>> hope that isn't the only long-term solution.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
>>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are you sure that you have voiceover in your login items system prefs
>>>>>>> paine under users set to read at the log on screen?  What if you hit
>>>>>>> command+F5 to turn it on manually?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If that doesn't work, try fn+Command+F5, provided you have an fn key.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Goodin" <doniado...@me.com>
>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:33 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: first possible bug in ML
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well, I think I've found my first bug with ML.  I no longer have
>>>>>>>> speech during the log-in process.  To test this, shut down your Mac
>>>>>>>> and reboot. You can still log in, but you will have no speech while
>>>>>>>> you are doing it. Can anyone confirm?
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Donna
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