Hi.
To select text, use standard OS X text selection commands. All of these can be 
found in the ""various help files.""


On 2012-07-31, at 11:16 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't know about selecting text, but why not just use textedit for 
> programming? I haven't found a way to get vo to report indentation 
> automatically, but I don't think you will have any problems aside from that.
> On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, David Eagle <onlineea...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
>> For me, mountain Lion is much faster, and much more reliable; says me
>> who's writing this email on a PC.
>> 
>> Incidentaly, someone said that selecting text is easier now in
>> Mountain Lion. I have a very hard time selecting text in Safari. How
>> do people do it? What happens when you want to select a few
>> paragraphs?
>> 
>> And Finally, Brandon: what to you use on the Mac for programming? I am
>> trying to find a simple programme like Notepad on the Mac so that I
>> can write HTML and XML files.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 31/07/2012, Missy Hoppe <mitmee....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi! I was trying to refrain from jumpint in on this topic, but I'm genuinely
>>> baffled by the original post and those who
>>> supported it. The original post may have reflected my feelings about lion,
>>> and I remember being tempted to sell my mac last
>>> year because I found lion to be so hateful, but I just made the best of it,
>>> knowing that updates would come along and fix the
>>> problems sooner or later. Sure enough, patience paid off. If I'm ever going
>>> to enjoy using my mac on a more regular basis,
>>> Mountain Lion will be the OS that makes that happen. So far as I can tell,
>>> almost everything I hated about lion has been
>>> fixed, and for the 1 or 2 very minor issues that still exist, I have my
>>> external drive that runs snow leopard. Mountain lion
>>> is significantly faster than Lion was, I haven't had any busies that I can
>>> recall, and best of all, VO always comes on at
>>> start-up, something which almost never happened under lion for me. Folks are
>>> definitely entitled to their opinions, but this
>>> almost seems like deliberate bashing just to cause drama. Maybe I'm the
>>> exception to the rule, but I simply can't imagine
>>> anyone thinking that Lion was better than ML.
>>> OK. I'm done now. I don't want to contribute too much to the drama, but I
>>> just had to speak up since for me, Mountain Lion is
>>> like a night and day improvement over Lion, and I'm genuinely excited about
>>> using my mac now.
>>> Missy
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tanner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:17 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion
>>> 
>>> I would definately agree, but if you remember, last year when Lion came out
>>> we went through this same complaint cycle.   People want all the new stuff,
>>> but they want it to all work the same and don't want to take the time and
>>> energy to learn the new stuff.  Some how it should
>>> just jump into their minds how to do everything.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps, people should get the two new books from Bookshare about Mountain
>>> Lion and study those and learn before complaining.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kawa...@me.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello All.
>>> 
>>> Now what I might say may be something that people may not like but I am one
>>> for plain speaking and will not mince my words.  However, this is my
>>> opinion.
>>> 
>>> People say that they may be disappointed with one thing or another and it
>>> is
>>> their right to do so of course.
>>> 
>>> But when anything new is released, there is going to be bugs etc as I have
>>> been a beta tester and know how hard people work to get a product into
>>> shape.
>>> 
>>> So rather than people complaining as people seem to do, why not just send
>>> your concerns to Apple Accessibility and rather than bashing a product work
>>> with them to improve a producct?  It would be so positivve to do that and
>>> sit and be passive about things as everyone would make a difference.  If
>>> everything was plain sailing, life would be dull.  So chill and think to do
>>> something positive.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 04:41 AM, James Mannion <mannion...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> And when the accessible web browsing experience on the mac at least
>>>> matches windows, I'll buy it. busy busy busy, can't handel large
>>>> amounts of text, ignores this and that on the page, the entire web
>>>> thing was why I gave up on the mac thing and sold my mac mini. To do
>>>> the web on the mac you have to put on those rose colored glasses that
>>>> view everything from a pro Apple perspective and you can't require
>>>> that it gets the job done.
>>>> 
>>>> Jim
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/30/12, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Been reading all these posts the last few days about how amazed
>>>>> everyone is with Mountain Lion, and not sure what all the amazement
>>>>> iss about.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It only took three days as I just had to use the Force Quit for
>>>>> Safari, and all it took was actually trying to login to my Yahoo
>>>>> Fantasy Baseball Page. I pulled it up and first the first time ever
>>>>> got a cookie message that said my safari cookie had expired, after I
>>>>> got out of that window safari did nothing but Busy Busy Busy for the
>>>>> better part of ten minutes before I went to force quit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I already had been very unimpressed with Mountain Lion between the VO
>>>>> space bar not properly selecting items I clicked on to the features
>>>>> being very blah Seriously dictation is useless for anyone who knows
>>>>> how to type. The notification center is useless especially if you keep
>>>>> Night Owl open like I do to Tweet, and Imessage, I'm sorry but I fail
>>>>> to see the point as most of us have our Iphone sitting right next to
>>>>> us. I hate to be so negative, but considering how many people were
>>>>> bashing Lion which didn't have that many problems, I fail to see where
>>>>> the significant upgrade is.
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