It worked for me, and nothing is marked as read once I arrow over it anymore. unfortunately, I can no longer use vo-j, which I wouldn't mind if cmd-o didn't read the subject and some other text all over again before reading the message. Also, the handy feature, where arrowing would decide in which direction focus moved when deleting seems to no longer work either, so focus always moves up. I suppose it's a trade-off... On Aug 13, 2012, at 9:46 PM, Jeff Berwick <mailingli...@berwick.name> wrote:
> Okay, strange but true. We are close on this one. Using standard view in > Mac Mail Mountain Lion I have been able to get the vertical bar to collapse. > This doesn't, however, prevent the entire message from being read. Any other > thoughts? > > Thx, > Jeff > > On 2012-08-13, at 11:14 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Try the following. >> >> 1. Removing the Preview Pane in Classic layout: >> >> • Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter that is to the right of the Messages >> table. >> • Press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if needed). This will bring the mouse to the VO >> cursor and announce where the mouse is and it should read "Horizontal >> Splitter". >> • Double-click on your Trackpad or alternatively, you can press near the top >> of the Trackpad and drag to the bottom. Make sure in this case that you >> actually make the Trackpad button depress so that the drag action will work. >> >> 2. Removing the Preview Pane for non-Classic layout: >> >> • Navigate to the Vertical Splitter just to the right of the Messages Column >> Group. >> • Press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if necessary) to bring the mouse to the VO cursor. >> It will announce Vertical Splitter if it did what it was supposed to do. >> • Double-click on the Trackpad or alternatively, put your finger near the >> left hand side of the Trackpad, then drag to the far right and release. As >> in the first case, make sure that you depress the Trackpad button so that >> the dragging process will occur. >> >> Note that in the Classic layout, you are dealing with a Horizontal Splitter >> and in the non-Classic layout, you are dealing with a Vertical Splitter. >> Each case requires a different dragging direction if you choose that option. >> >> There are a couple of ways of determining if it worked. Firstly, you can >> navigate around the Mail screen and if you don't hear anything about >> "Message Content Area", life is good. >> >> The second method is a little more complicated but tells you for sure. In >> Classic layout, navigate to the Horizontal Splitter to the right of the "New >> Mailbox Action" menu. You'll notice two Horizontal splitters, one after the >> Messages Table and this one that I'm talking about. Once you've located >> this Horizontal Splitter, Interact with it and press VO-down. Vo will >> announce "Collapsed" which is what you want to hear. In non-Classic layout, >> navigate to the Vertical Splitter just to the right of the Messages Column >> Group and Interact with it. Press VO-right and VO will announce "Collapsed" >> if the Preview pane is gone. >> >> HTH. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On 2012-08-12, at 7:16 PM, Jeff Berwick <mailingli...@berwick.name> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the tip. However, I'm still not getting anyt=where. The >>> horizontal bar, according to my mother-in-law, controls a pane on the left >>> which has the list of mailboxes. The vertical bar seemingly does nothing. >>> Any other tips? >>> >>> Thx, >>> Jeff >>> >>> On 2012-08-12, at 7:43 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> You need to do a physical mouse click on the bar with your trackpad with >>>> trackpad commander turned off or, with a mouse. >>>> >>>> hth >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>> >>>> On Aug 12, 2012, at 7:02 PM, Jeff Berwick <mailingli...@berwick.name> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I know this has been covered, but I had already accomplished this in Lion >>>>> and, when I upgraded to ML, it just worked. Now I have purchased a new >>>>> computer and get get rid of the preview pane. What am I missing? >>>>> >>>>> I go to the Mail program and go over to the horizontal bar and interact. >>>>> I then set the percentage to 0% but it doesn't seem to go away. 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