I'm not so nonchalant and forgiving about it. I can do the Apple part without sighted assistance; I can install on my Mac and install on linux on my own. But i can't install Windows by myself?! I do plan to bootcamp Windows 7 eventually but right now I am in the process of installing it in vmware fusion, soley because Windows is the one system I use that doesn't allow me to install it on my own. i would prefer my choices to be really my choices, not ones forced on me by the inaccessibility of a system! But I am thankful that at least vmware does allow me to install Windows independently! At least it allowed me to install xp independently and I'm about to find out about Windows 7. And despite my unhappiness with the inaccessibility of the install, I really am looking forward to learning Windows 7 now that I've decided to finally leave xp behind!
-- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Oct 6, 2012, at 12:48 PM, "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ray, Yes, I had sighted assistance. > > I found a fairly tech competent person who had a few hours to kill and it > took us 2 hours from start to finish. > > That's from the time I started bootcamp assistant, through the actual > windows7 install, the install of apple support drivers, and finally > installing jaws12. There's just no way around the need for sighted assistance > in my opinion, but hey, sighted people aren't so bad ;-) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ray Foret Jr > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:47 AM > Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 > > Did you have sighted assistance while going through the boot camp thingie > yesterday? My guess is that you got to a point in the windows installation > where it came time to do the actual install of windows and you needed sighted > help because no windows audio drivers were loaded yet. Is that pretty much > right? > > I ain't done it myself, but, many have. I believe it to be completely > possible because of the way it works. Voice Over won't guide you through the > process; but, still, it can be done. My advice, however, is not to listen > to me but to others who have actually done it. > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! > > Skype name: > barefootedray > > On Oct 6, 2012, at 9:32 AM, "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Harry, I'm pretty sure you'll have to actually "install" windows during the >> bootcamp process. Having it as a VMWare machine won't work for you >> there. I went through the whole bootcamp thing yesterday and it worked >> great. Now, I'm thinking of going the VMWare route. Can you tell me if it is >> easy to install windows via VMWare without sighted assistance? >> Is VO up and talking through the process? >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Hogue" <harryhog...@gmail.com> >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:31 AM >> Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 >> >> >> Hi, that's good to know that it doesn't cost money. I don't regret using >> VMware Fusion, since times call for having both operating systems running at >> the same time, but it's nice to know that this alternative option is also >> available. if I have Windows already installed via a virtual machine, would >> I have to reinstall it, do you know? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Harry >> >> On oct 5, 2012, at 8:05 p.m., Mauricio Almeida <mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> hi harry, >>> >>> booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal copy of >>> windows. >>> I found it to be definitely worth it. >>> Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to have >>> windows. it can come in handy. >>> >>> mauricio >>> On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Harry, >>>> >>>> I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks quite >>>> straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows >>>> install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at >>>> that point. >>>> >>>> You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get familiar >>>> with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a >>>> detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's >>>> website >>>> >>>> www.blackviper.com >>>> >>>> search his site for windows 7 install. >>>> >>>> I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking >>>> frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly >>>> tomorrow. >>>> >>>> P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup and >>>> installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for >>>> that doc. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Hogue" <harryhog...@gmail.com> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM >>>> Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2 >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs money, >>>> and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion. Waht are the >>>> advantages/disadvantages? would it make the Windows side of my computer >>>> faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the >>>> same time, for example? I know others ahve provided instructions, so I >>>> could search for those threads, if instructions were provided about the >>>> best way to search the mail archives, as I don't know. >>>> >>>> Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2. I wondered, since I know >>>> some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend >>>> I upgrade from 10.8.1? I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, >>>> but my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even >>>> though my system in in Spanish. I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to >>>> avoid this, but don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still >>>> pretty buggy. >>>> >>>> Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated as both >>>> portiosn of the post are. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> harry >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group >>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group >>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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