These are not specifically issues having to do with threads and conversations. I am using the new standard mail, not the classical view, but I am not using any kind of threading. I find that I often have messages that don't appear to be deleted and then when I finally go completely out of the messages table and column I finally hear that the table is empty. I find this annoying and it definitely slows me down! I used to just be able to give the delete key a tap and the message was gone; now that doesn't happen a lot of the time and i'm always concerned that I may not know where the focus is and another email may have been deleted instead of the one I was trying to delete. While I like the feature that has lines read when a message comes in or when I am in the index, this can interrupt me when I'm reviewing something else in the index. It is no longer as snappy and quick to run through a bunch of mail as it used to be. I'm actually threatening to take most of my mail reading either to the iPhone and/or back to Alpine in linux on vmware fusion. Of course, part of the appeal of going back to Alpine is that I have braille with my braillelite 40 in the vmware fusion environment ( I sure wish these old serial devices could be full-fledged Mac players but I realize they are old technology) but part of it is that mail on my mac, while still quite doable, isn't as easy as it used to be. I kind of thought i must be doing something that wasn't the best practice and hadn't researched this so hadn't said anything on a list yet. I even tried hitting enter and then tabbing to delete but that is unnecessarily slow in my opinion. I realize this post isn't that helpful as I have no actual suggestions to give, but I didn't realize quite how frustrated I am with the Apple mail situation until I saw this post so I'm venting a little, and when I get going you get extra irrelevant data at no extra cost, unless you are paying for the download of my complaining. Don't get me wrong; I love my Mac and it is now my primary OS, but mail sometimes really annoys me when I'm trying to run rapidly through a bunch of messages. I've even considered whether the fact that I am using imap contributes to this, but since I am using mail on two iPhones, my Macbook pro, and sometimes Alpine in linux, it makes more sense to use imap. Okay I'm done; you can all take your hands down off your ears now without fear of losing precious hearing from listening to me yell!
-- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Oct 10, 2012, at 3:23 PM, "Jeff Bishop" <j...@jeffbishop.com> wrote: > Please see this message. Does anyone have any pointers that I might be able > to pass along? > > Hello all, > My name is Amber and I'm having some problems with Mac Mail in Mountain lion. > I am using Gmail along with Mac mail. I have set up Gmail with its > accompanying folders. I find that I am having trouble with voiceover in the > conversations that I have created in Mac mail. I like the option to thread > my replies, but I am finding that voiceover repeats the "conversation > disclosure triangle" quite a bit when I arrow through messages. In addition, > I am also having trouble deleting emails within threads. Sometimes when I use > the backspace key, the messages within the threads are deleted. However, > sometimes they are not, or the messages seem to be deleted, but the same > message is read to me a few times. It is almost as if voiceover cannot catch > up with my deletion of certain messages within the thread although I am not > deleting them very quickly. In order for them to be permanently deleted, I > have to hit command and W and close the entire thread. > Another issue I am having is that sometimes command delete will delete the > message and sometimes it will not. There are a few things that I have done to > try to fix this problem. I have removed my Gmail account and put it back onto > Mac mail. I have also gone into the view menu and changed it to classic mail > view.. In the mail preferences under the view tab, list previews are turned > off. Show headers is also said to none. Include all messages is also > unchecked. Mark own messages as read this unchecked. Should this be checked? > I am running Mountain lion OS 10 on a MacBook. Not a pro. It is about two > years old. I have done all updates to Mountain lion just today. > I have also noted that voiceover is a bit sluggish on my machine. Sometimes > it takes a while to catch up to what I'm doing. > If anyone could help I would greatly appreciated. You can email me at > amber.wall...@gmail.com. Thank you. > Sincerely, > Amber > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
