Well, I use iTunes (with my library) and YoruFukurou a lot. Still, that's why I 
have an iPod I suppose. Right now I'm crossing my fingers that the power cord 
trick will work. So far so good, but I'll give it a few days before I call it a 
success.
On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> When you install ML, it will install Safari, Mail and the usual suite of 
> Apple apps.  Will that do the trick or do you need some other specific apps 
> installed?
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-10-29, at 2:21 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Well, if the power cord idea fails, I can try to do what you said with an 
>> external disk. I have a few lying around that should serve, and I've meant 
>> to put ML on a thumb drive for some time anyway. Still, the restarts can 
>> happen every few hours or once a day, so that'd be quite a while without my 
>> usual apps. It beats $40 or so in ram, though. Oh, and no, I'm the only user 
>> and have no Office products installed at all.
>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I guess that's why they give it as an option.  Each of us wish to handle 
>>> things in different ways.
>>> 
>>> I did some checking and noted a few other reasons for a problem such as 
>>> yours.  One has to do with Excel.  If you are the only user of this Mac, 
>>> I'm guessing that Excel is not likely the issue then as it is not 
>>> accessible to VO users.  The other issue is a RAM issue.  In the case of 
>>> RAM, you'd either have to replace the RAM to confirm the issue or take it 
>>> into the Shop.
>>> 
>>> If you have an external HD that you could use as a test OS, it would go far 
>>> to determine if it is a hardware or software issue.  With the external HD, 
>>> install your OS on it and tell the Mini to startup from that HD under the 
>>> Startup Disk pane of the System Preferences.  Just install the OS and let 
>>> it run for a while.  Set it to not automatically log into any user so that 
>>> if it restarts on its own, you'll know because the Mini will be at the 
>>> login screen.  I know that not everyone has things like that hanging around 
>>> but for geeks like me, it makes the troubleshooting process more reliable.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2012-10-29, at 12:22 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It was already unchecked, for what that's worth. I always had vague 
>>>> notions of returning power being too much for the machine, so I never 
>>>> wanted it to try powering up. I also was not sure if it would turn on, 
>>>> only to be cut off again in the case of fluctuating power. Ridiculous 
>>>> thoughts I know, but at least that box has never been checked.
>>>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> It's in the same window.  I'm running a Server though so the Energy Saver 
>>>>> window may have a slightly different look.  Uncheck that one for now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2012-10-29, at 12:02 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll try the restart in a moment. I looked in energy saver, though, and 
>>>>>> saw only a box for restarting after a power failure. Is there a separate 
>>>>>> box for restarting after a freeze, or is it just in a different place? 
>>>>>> Thanks for your continued assistance.
>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You have a couple of scenarios to consider here:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1.  Software issue with System Management Controller (SMC).  Sometimes 
>>>>>>> it gets confused and causes such behaviour.  The errors you're 
>>>>>>> reporting could simply be caused by apps being interrupted in mid-use 
>>>>>>> therefore they will report that they were not Quit properly and may 
>>>>>>> have various errors reported.   Fix this by shutting down your 
>>>>>>> computer, unplugging the power cord for 15 to 30 seconds, plugging it 
>>>>>>> back in and waiting for at least 5 seconds then powering it back up.  
>>>>>>> This is similar to what I asked you to do yesterday but I checked on 
>>>>>>> Apple's site and this process has been slightly modified.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2.  Hardware issue with your Mini's power supply.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 3.  Software problem with your installation.  If you have your Mac set 
>>>>>>> to restart automatically after the computer freezes or after a power 
>>>>>>> failure, then this would usually indicate one or the other.  First, I 
>>>>>>> would uncheck both these items in the Energy Saver pane of your System 
>>>>>>> Preferences.  Then let your computer run normally.  If you come back to 
>>>>>>> a frozen computer, then you likely have a software problem.  If you 
>>>>>>> come back to a computer that is off, then it is an issue with your 
>>>>>>> power supply, cord or supply of electricity to the unit itself.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Some are not good news but at least with these troubleshooting steps, 
>>>>>>> you should be able to determine where the problem lies.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2012-10-29, at 10:51 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> I did as was suggested and unplugged the mac for a few minutes 
>>>>>>>> yesterday. Once it booted back up, I ran Disk Utility and told it to 
>>>>>>>> repair permissions on my hard drive, and if fixed about 10 problems. I 
>>>>>>>> had no more restarts, and I was going to wait a day or two longer 
>>>>>>>> before tentatively declaring success... until I came upstairs, opened 
>>>>>>>> my bedroom door, and heard vo speaking a bunch of app names as it 
>>>>>>>> re-launched them. I knew what it meant, and I was right: there was a 
>>>>>>>> brand new problem report sitting there, saying what the last few have: 
>>>>>>>> my mac had been restarted due to a problem. As always, I reported it 
>>>>>>>> with the problem report thing, but now what? As I said, I don't have 
>>>>>>>> Apple Care, nor do I have the funds to replace my machine. It is a 
>>>>>>>> 2011 Mini with 2gb ram. It runs as cool as it always has, and it's on 
>>>>>>>> the back of my desk where it has reasonably good airflow around it. 
>>>>>>>> Also, my room is normally cold enough that I sometimes have trouble 
>>>>>>>> typing, so I am nearly certain that overheating is not a problem. So, 
>>>>>>>> any suggestions or ideas anyone has would be wonderful. Thanks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> 
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