First of all, we are trying to help each other and none of us has any idea what 
the rest of us know and don't know so you are always going to get some advice 
you've already tried. secondly, if it doesn't work, one of two things is true 
(1) you haven't figured out how to implement it; or (2) it's a bug of some kind 
and you can google or in other ways check whether it's been reported and if not 
you can report it. If it's truly a bug and you've reported it, you've done all 
you can except that you may also be able to search and find workarounds from 
people who have encountered the same nasty bug.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:

> I know all that.  I tried all that too.  It ain't a matter of my not knowing; 
> rather, it's a matter of it's not working right.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
> 
> On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Chris Moore <apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Go to iTunes preferences.
>> 
>> Then go to advance in the toolbar and you have two options to play with.
>> 
>> 1. Keep iTunes media folder organised (this is checked by default).
>> 
>> 2. Copy files to iTunes media folder when adding to library (this is checked 
>> by default).
>> 
>> Untick these options, and it should then give you what you want.
>> 
>> On 29 Nov 2012, at 20:19, "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Um…the store uses headings, quite well actually. I have no problems.
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:18 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>  
>>> Have you not heard of playlists?
>>>  
>>> Also, you can unstick files when listening to playlists or albums etc, the 
>>> songs which are not ticked will be skipped and iTunes will then start 
>>> playing the next song/podcast etc it comes across within the list which is 
>>> ticked.
>>>  
>>> iTunes 11 also has a new feature to add songs to play next too.
>>>  
>>> iTunes 11 also now supports the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut 
>>> (command + F) to find/search. (this shortcut previously placed iTunes in 
>>> full screen mode).
>>>  
>>> I still think the iTunes store is a complete mess.  Does not even follow 
>>> standard w3c accessibility guidelines for heading structure.  I am sure 
>>> visually it probably looks better, but to a screen reader it is still a bit 
>>> of a mess on that home screen.
>>>  
>>> To be honest, I still prefer iTunes 10, but am sure 11 will grow on me.
>>>  
>>> Chris 
>>> On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:56, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file using finder 
>>> and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file.  I know that, 
>>> ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
>>>  
>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could even do 
>>> that.
>>> Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and refuses to 
>>> read with jaws when you show it.
>>>  
>>> From: 
>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>  
>>> Well, you see, I had a problem.  Every single time I tried to add files to 
>>> my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh OS 
>>> reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not permitted to 
>>> add the files themselves to the Library.
>>>  
>>> What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11?  Is this 
>>> possible?  
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
>>>  
>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to navigating 
>>> around the UI. On Windows, there’s even more tabbing around than there used 
>>> to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, however, I use it primarily on the 
>>> Mac.
>>> As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I’m not quite sure 
>>> why you’d need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not place the 
>>> files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the library, 
>>> therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose.
>>>  
>>> From: 
>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>  
>>> What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from what 
>>> you've seen so far?
>>>  
>>> I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is still as 
>>> library dependant as the other versions have been.  IF so, it will mean 
>>> that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch again, and 
>>> if this collection consists of files I record myself, I will need to have 
>>> two copies of each file; one in the original location and the other in my 
>>> ITunes library.  I'd really rather not do that.
>>>  
>>> Clutters up drive space.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
>>>  
>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of
>>> things.
>>> Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>> 
>>> I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily.
>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and redesigned
>>> store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't plan
>>> to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with vo.
>>> Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Mary Otten
>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>> 
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