Hi Cheryl,

Encrypting a disk is easy, even as a voiceover user. After it's done, you boot 
your machine, and after the mac sound, wait a few seconds and hit command f5. 
You will hear one beep. This single beep indicates that the cursor is now on 
the name field. Enter your user name and hit enter. If the user name was 
recognized, you will hear 2 beeps, and then the cursor will be inside the 
password field. But if the username you entered was incorrect by accident, you 
will hear a single beep again, meaning that you need to enter your user name 
again. So after the 2 beeps, where the cursor is in the password field, enter 
that and hit enter. Again, if it is correct, you will now hear 3 beeps and the 
system will boot to the desktop. If the password was incorrect, you will hear 
the password entry prompt, by means of 2 beeps, again. Just go into system 
preferences, then security and privacy, and there into the tab sheet called 
file vault, turn it on and follow its instructions. It works like a charm, and 
I have never experienced any slow downs after encryption was turned on. I don't 
know how Apple does that, but it's fast, and transparent once you have it set 
up. By the way, TrueCrypt is another way to secure your drive, but I'm still 
trying to find out how that works for us. Filevault is okay though.

One last note about it: I had to turn off my mac after it hung a few times. 
Normally, you need to worry about your file system being damaged, but even with 
filevault turned on for the entire drive, I haven't noticed any data loss or 
file system corruptions. It's a nice system.

Hth,
Paul.
On Dec 28, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cahom...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So glad yuou found a solution!
> When voiceover first came available several years ago, some people had 
> problems getting voiceover to start up. So with the first two minis I got, I 
> ended up having to reinstall completely just in order to get started the 
> first time - talk about making a newbie sink or swim! I could have waited for 
> sighted help but I, like you, was impatient and didn't want to do that. So 
> I'm not surprised that you took the course you did and I'm glad it worked for 
> you. I've never encrypted but i may give it some thought after your 
> description.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 28, 2012, at 9:34 AM, Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Cheryl,
>> 
>> I sort of solved the problem, and thanks for the pointer to the checkboxes 
>> in sysprefs, bluetooth, advanced. I wasn't aware of those. So yes, I did fix 
>> the problem, but really differently. I gave up on logging in. I restarted 
>> from the recovery partition, wiped the macintosh hd partition, installed 
>> os10 from there, updated it, and was back where I was. However, this time, I 
>> encrypted my disk, so that I would get my login prompt way before any 
>> bluetooth stuff would pop up. As it is now, the mini asks for my credentials 
>> 1 second after boot up starts, because that's the way filevault handles 
>> encryption for the whole disk. After you enter them, it boots straight to 
>> the desktop and there's no further authentication windows. So now, I was 
>> already logged in, but I did still get the dialog asking for a trackpad or 
>> mouse. These are gone now, thanks to your explanation. But I was impatient 
>> to get going with it yesterday I'm afraid, but again, I learned something. 
>> Thanks for your response.
>> 
>> Paul.
>> On Dec 28, 2012, at 12:35 AM, Cheryl Homiak <cahom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Did you solve this yet? I can tell you how to keep it from happening in the 
>>> future if you are able to log in.
>>> Go into System Preferences > Bluetooth. In Advanced are two checkboxes: one 
>>> opens bluetooth setup assistant if no keybopard is detected; the other 
>>> opens it if no mouse or trackpad is detected. You probably only need the 
>>> second one but you can decide that.
>>> 
>>> As for logging in, if you haven't solved that, when bluetooth setup 
>>> assistant pops up, try one of the following (these aren't necessarily in a 
>>> herarchical order):
>>> command-tab instad of doing cmd-q
>>> vo-f2 twice to see if you get a window chooser though I think maybe not.
>>> vo-f2 twice in the window that says "authentication has no windows)
>>> turning voiceover on and off in that "authentication has no windows" area.
>>> Or just log in with both a keyboard and mouse attached and you shouldn't 
>>> get that window at all. Then you can fix the problem in System Preferences 
>>> as described above.
>>> Hth.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> May the words of my mouth
>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear listers,
>>>> After laying my hands on mac mini, I'm running into some problems. I went 
>>>> through the initial setup assistant, chose my language, filled in my Apple 
>>>> ID, etc etc. Everything went just fine. I turned off bluetooth because I'm 
>>>> not going to need a mouse or a trackpad. All was fine and I shut down the 
>>>> mini.
>>>> 
>>>> A few hours later I came back and booted. VoiceOver support comes when I 
>>>> hit command f5, but I can change that later on, so that VO comes on even 
>>>> at log on. But what happens now is, that I boot, and then try to click my 
>>>> user name and enter my password, but at that time, a dialog pops up, 
>>>> saying the mini is looking for a keyboard or mouse via bluetooth. I have a 
>>>> usb keyboard though, and no mouse. This dialog states that I can get rid 
>>>> of it, i.e. stop the mini from looking for a mouse or trackpad, simply by 
>>>> hitting command q. Hit command q if you don't have a trackpad or wireless 
>>>> mouse it says. But when I do that, I am not returned to the dialog where I 
>>>> can enter my username and password for log on. Instead, I land in a window 
>>>> where it says: authentication has no windows. From here, I can indeed turn 
>>>> on or off voiceover, but there is no way to enter my log on account info 
>>>> to go on. I tried vo f1 twice, but it dings at me, instead of telling me 
>>>> how many apps are open. Maybe, you can only use vo f1 f1 from the desktop, 
>>>> or from one of its children I suppose.
>>>> 
>>>> So what do I do now? Can I still log in? Is there any way to get around 
>>>> this issue, or did I just screw up the device, and do I need to completely 
>>>> reinstall it using a usb key with mountain lion on it? That is no problem 
>>>> at all, but it takes time I'd rather use for more productive things than 
>>>> reinstalling a new device. Did any of you exprerience this situation? How 
>>>> did you all get around this problem? Was it stupidity not to get a 
>>>> wireless mouse or magic pad?
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Paul.
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