Yes, because there is no message content area now. So, you will only be jumping between the mailbox table and the message list.
Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Jan 22, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Tim and list: > These instructions were brilliant, and now I see message status. However, I > have a dumb question to ask, and perhaps I'm staring something right in the > face and overlooking it. Before getting rid of the preview pane, when I was > in a list of messages, I would press v o J to go into a message, and v o j to > return to the messages table. Well, this command no longer works for me. When > I press v o j now, I always find myself interacting with the mailboxes table. > Is this because in the past, VO j was interacting with the preview pane? I > know I'm missing something. I can, of course, read a message by pressing > enter, and return to the messages table by pressing command w. Just curious > as to the reason for this change in behavior. > > > You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding > Sent from my Mac Book Pro > richr...@gmail.com > > On Jan 21, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Richard, >> >> Here's the content of a message I posted a while back that explains how to >> get rid of the Preview pane and down at the bottom of the content, it >> explains how you can confirm that it's enabled/disable. When the Preview >> pane is disable, you normally can determine the read/unread status of >> messages. >> >> 1. Removing the Preview Pane in Classic layout: >> >> • Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter that is to the right of the Messages >> table. >> • Press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if needed). This will bring the mouse to the VO >> cursor and announce where the mouse is and it should read "Horizontal >> Splitter". >> • Double-click on your Trackpad or alternatively, you can press near the top >> of the Trackpad and drag to the bottom. Make sure in this case that you >> actually make the Trackpad button depress so that the drag action will work. >> >> 2. Removing the Preview Pane for non-Classic or Normal layout: >> >> • Navigate to the Vertical Splitter just to the right of the Messages Column >> Group. >> • Press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if necessary) to bring the mouse to the VO cursor. >> It will announce Vertical Splitter if it did what it was supposed to do. >> • Double-click on the Trackpad or alternatively, put your finger near the >> left hand side of the Trackpad, then drag to the far right and release. As >> in the first case, make sure that you depress the Trackpad button so that >> the dragging process will occur. >> >> Note that in the Classic layout, you are dealing with a Horizontal Splitter >> and in the non-Classic layout, you are dealing with a Vertical Splitter. >> Each case requires a different dragging direction if you choose that option. >> >> There are a couple of ways of determining if it worked. Firstly, you can >> navigate around the Mail screen and if you don't hear anything about >> "Message Content Area", life is good. >> >> The second method is a little more complicated but tells you for sure. In >> Classic layout, navigate to the Horizontal Splitter to the right of the "New >> Mailbox Action" menu. You'll notice two Horizontal splitters, one after the >> Messages Table and this one that I'm talking about. Once you've located this >> Horizontal Splitter, Interact with it and press VO-down. VO will announce >> "Collapsed" which is what you want to hear. In non-Classic (Normal) layout, >> navigate to the Vertical Splitter just to the right of the Messages Column >> Group and Interact with it. Press VO-right and VO will announce "Collapsed" >> if the Preview pane is gone. >> >> See if that helps. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On 2013-01-21, at 3:50 PM, Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I honestly don't know if it is, I don't know how to tell. >>> >>> >>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of >>> Fielding >>> Sent from my Mac Book Pro >>> richr...@gmail.com >>> >>> On Jan 21, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Richard, >>>> >>>> Is your Preview Pane active? >>>> >>>> Later... >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>> On 2013-01-20, at 8:00 AM, Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Mine doesn't either, once in a while the reply was sent button will >>>>> appear, but I can never know whether a message was read or not. >>>>> >>>>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of >>>>> Fielding >>>>> Sent from my Mac Book Pro >>>>> richr...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, all. Ever since I've had this Mac, VO does not state whether a >>>>>> message is unread. I have my mail set on classic but even when I change >>>>>> it, it is all to no avail. 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