Hi, there:

Thanks so much for this instruction and the delete key warning.
On 2013-03-18, at 1:28 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:

> Hi there
> To make a transformat in  TextEdit first select all your text with command a. 
> At this point, make sure you don't press the delete key. If you do 
> accidentally however, press command Z in a big hurry. Then press the VO keys 
> which are control option together with the Letter min menu. Go with the right 
> arrow to edit and go down arrow until you hear transformations submenu. Press 
> the right arrow key and you want to go down arrow until you hear make 
> lowercase press the return key. You will be taking back to your file so press 
> the upper down arrow key here something to make sure that you an highlight 
> things. This will look strange decided people, but it works okay for braille 
> files.
> Regards,
> GG
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 17, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Hello, there. 
>> 
>> How does one perform a transformation in Text Edit so dots 7 and 8 are not 
>> shown? I want to read online Braille books which are in .brf format.
>> /
>> On 2013-03-17, at 1:23 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> Another difference I have noticed, is the displaying of BRF files on the 
>>> Mac compared to those on windows with Jaws.  If you load in a BRF file from 
>>> web braille, unless you want to see   Dots seven and eight all the time, 
>>> the first thing you have to do in TextEdit is a transformation from 
>>> lowercase. In Jaws, you can turn dots 7 and eight off and just see your BRF 
>>> files the way you normally would without showing the upper case all the 
>>> time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Actually, the cursor can be visible. You have to enable an option along 
>>>> the lines of "show selected text with dots 7 and 8" and your cursor will 
>>>> appear. Unfortunately, a bunch of text will start being shown with dots 7 
>>>> and 8 below it, which gets old fast. So I guess it's a bit of a trade-off, 
>>>> but there is a way to show a cursor.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 16:54, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, I think the biggest difference is the cursor is not visible in mac 
>>>>> osx. This took a lot of getting used too. Correct me if I'm wrong but I 
>>>>> haven't found rapid reading as I did with Jaws but it's not a feature I 
>>>>> used often.
>>>>> On 2013-03-16, at 10:19 AM, Brandt <brandt.steenk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi there folks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Being that I have used Braille displays with jaws for the last 10 years 
>>>>>> or so, I would say that I am familiar with the way JFW presents braille. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For those of you who use braille with voiceover, is there any 
>>>>>> significant differences? If so, please highlight.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks so long.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>>> 
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