Hi All, For those interested on both lists, I've just started a Blind Photography group at:
http://groups.google.com/group/blindphotography Membership is open right now so y'all can join but I'll be making the group invite-only very shortly so we head-off spammers before they start. :) Please feel free to come on in and continue this great discussion! This group is not limited to use of cameras on Macs or iDevices, but is open to all discussion around photography and the blind / visually impaired… Enjoy and see y'all there! Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kay Malmquist <kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> wrote: You know, I find this topic very interesting and wish there were somewhere that those of us interested could talk more about it. Any tips, thought and discussion would be neat. I hate to even suggest this, but maybe a list for this subject would be quite popular. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara Quinn" <modelc...@gmail.com> To: <viph...@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not take attachments. And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced us as photographers… For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :) So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience taking photos, perhaps for the first time… Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd take with the instructor / class. I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of the pics really did make an impression on the instructor… There were also class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also an exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd love to! :) Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively? Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for sharing!… Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:54 AM, RobH! <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote: I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna get putting the camera to your face. With on screen images, even the sighted don't need to do this any more. Can I post a picture to the list, took it yesterday, it is getting quite a reaction. Anyone looking at the perspective is gonna know I never got down that low to take it or I might not have got up again. Ta, R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne Chua" <shuang.an...@gmail.com> To: <viph...@googlegroups.com> Cc: <viph...@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: OT: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, After reading some of the post here, i feel that perhaps, might help some of you if i share my personal story a little. early last year, one of the local art disability organization was having a series of 6 workshops called "short in the dark" for vision impaired and blind people on photographing. there're 12 participants that are blind and vision impaired. We all got a loan digital camera, and learning the basic of photographic, taking photos as a blind person. The workshop was conducted by Mr. Andrew Follows, one of the blind photographer that base in Melbourne Australia. After the workshops, we then, have the task of taking photos for a special exhibition, happen in the state library of South Australia, Australia. The idea of the exhibition is to exhibit about things that blind people cann and can't see, using the art of micro photograph, (close up photos). I must have took about 5000 photos or more, i think i gone thru 3 x 4gb SD Cards in the period of 6 weeks. It was odd, whenever i go, i'll have the camera with me, and a guidedog. So, often, i get people came up to me and ask me if i need help, or, some, even questioning if i took someone's camera, or lost, or, one to the extent as i'm really blind, and if i got a guidedog that is escape from someone's yard. Part of the deal is a micro photographer is to go close up with the subject/object of whatever you photographing. So, i did a lot of crazy stuff, includes laying on the floor in a quite busy footpath, trying to capture the foot prints of foot trafics when they went pass on the floor, to almost kissing the wall, trying to capture the very texture of the wall etc etc. To cut the story short, we did have an exhibition on the state library, it went for a month. 8 out of the 12 participants continued the project after the first workshop, and 8 of us do stay on the project till the end. When i did the project, i often doubting myself, and my ability as a blind person to take photos, and the quality of the photos. Soon i learn, it doesn't matter. Even if i took a photo of the garbage bin, (one of my better short) it gave a different prospective to others. When i got disappointed and discourage by the comments from the public, i know, when, i was most determine that i want to continue on the project. Now, almost 17 month has pass since we started the project, and almost 11 months pass since the project ended. We are now, talking about finding ways to fund the project, to have the second short in the dark project for more blind and vision impaired people. Although it seems weird, or, you may have get lots of weird comments about you, as a blind person taking photo, but, just remember, you are not alone.Joanne Chua Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate. On 05/06/2013, at 3:55, Robert Fenton <robert.fen...@samobile.net> wrote: > Hello: > > This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. How > does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is > supposed to tell you when the image is centred. I have never seen that > happen. > > Thanks for your help. > > Bob Fenton > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos" <r...@raulgallegos.com> > wrote: > >> Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone >> up-side-down. <grin>. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep >> forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used >> to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. >> >> -- >> Raul A. Gallegos >> I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out >> Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper >> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 >> >> On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes >>> the >>> picture. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viph...@googlegroups.com [mailto:viph...@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Raul A. Gallegos >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM >>> To: viph...@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: taking photos when blind >>> >>> Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the >>> volume >>> down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to >>> worry >>> about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture >>> button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger >>> double-tap. >>> >>> -- >>> Raul A. Gallegos >>> Harry Potter brand condoms: "Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while >>> you're in her chamber of secrets." - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook >>> user ID: rau47 >>> >>> On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use >>>> that >>> will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It >>> can >>> use in both iphones and also digital camera. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you >>> taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, >>> your >>> eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be >>> the >>> camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the >>> subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it >>> in a >>> line as your eye sees it. >>>> >>>> It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help >>>> as >>> well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the >>> take >>> picture button is on the sscreen. >>>> >>>> Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your >>> forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right >>> side of >>> the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the >>> top >>> middle. >>>> >>>> Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually >>>> get >>> there. >>>> >>>> Hope this help. >>>> >>>> I hope this help. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> JoanneSent from my iPad >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood <lockwoo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives >>>>> feedback >>> about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the >>> camera >>> sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there >>> which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good >>> photos without the object being half off the screen or off center >>> drastically? >>>>> >>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id55398 >>>>> 1192 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to viph...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google >>> Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viph...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viph...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viph...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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