Hi again
As far as I remember, that is right that it's not just BlindSquare that I 
couldn't stop. However, for some weird reason, and it may be an iOS  thing like 
you  say, I have never had this happen when exiting any other program. I have 
Navigon On my iPhone also, and it has never done this with the app switcher.  
However  it wants not to stop  either. So, like you say, it is probably 
something you can't do anything about.


Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 29, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa <ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, try that out. The thing you describe is something that app has no 
> control of, so it's iOS feature/problem. I believe you can't stop any other 
> app either?
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>> Thanks. I did not know about 15 minutes that it would stop anyway. However, 
>> I am having a problem using the app switcher to close the program after I go 
>> in to BlindSquare. The husband turn voiceover off, and he had the same 
>> problem. I had to restart the iPhone. What happens is using voice over you 
>> have to double tap and hold in order to get into the edit apps to take them 
>> off of the app switcher. However the app switcher refuses to go into the 
>> editing feature and instead opens whatever program you Happened to touch. If 
>> I restart the iPhone, it doesn't do that. This is really weird, and I have 
>> never seen this happen before.
>> 
>> However, now that I know about 15 minutes, maybe I'll just leave it alone 
>> since I have a for S iPhone.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 29, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa <ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello!
>>> 
>>> This has nothing to do with if it detects if you are home or not, it is 
>>> just that you have set it to run in background and it will until you stop 
>>> it. In iOS 6 there is feature that will stop it automatically after a while 
>>> anyway (you will hear it announced when it does) so it will not take 
>>> battery more than 15 minutes or so. There might be limitations on which 
>>> device models it does this, I think it needs at least 4S model.
>>> 
>>> You can always stop it from App Switcher and it is the best way if you want 
>>> to use all background features. Maybe someone on this list can help you how 
>>> to do it with voiceover. 
>>> There are other options too, you can find more info from here: 
>>> http://blindsquare.com/faq/#why-does-it-keep-talking
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi there 
>>>> I am still too new to Blind Square to start saying what I want as 
>>>> features. There are some other programs that I can mention, like 
>>>> TapTapSee, just to name one, that I love. 
>>>> 
>>>> I do have a question, however, that I intended to put on the list anyway. 
>>>> Has anybody had trouble closing Blind Square? I have had a weird problem 
>>>> that if I want to close the program, and I go to the app switcher, and 
>>>> press double tap and hold to edit applications, the iPhone wants to open 
>>>> the program instead of going to edit apps. The reason I want to close it 
>>>> is because if I have put in a destination, and the program thinks I'm not 
>>>> there, it keeps talking and won't stop. This is because, for instance, my 
>>>> house is at 1019, but the program thinks I'm at 1015, which, by the way, 
>>>> is better than some GPS programs I've used. So far, this is the only thing 
>>>> that I had trouble with. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Gigi
>>>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa <ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello you all!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you Eugenia for this nice posting where you describe so well the 
>>>>> level of independence an iDevice can make possible.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If Apple develops their products with great vision without interacting 
>>>>> with end user too much, I develop BlindSquare together with end users, 
>>>>> bit by bit bringing it to the level you could never get by traditional 
>>>>> development style. I welcome you all to take part of this journey by 
>>>>> giving your ideas what you would like to see in future versions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare dev
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi guys 
>>>>>> When I started out thinking about an accessible phone, I never dreamed 
>>>>>> that I would get a device that would have a GPS like BlindSquare on it 
>>>>>> and that I could get a restaurant menu on it with a braille display. I 
>>>>>> never dreamed of a program where I could take pictures of an item in my 
>>>>>> refrigerator or a can in my cabinet and find out what the thing was. 
>>>>>> When people talked about the camera, I remember thinking "Well, who 
>>>>>> cares!" I remember Johnathan you doing a podcast or some kind of 
>>>>>> presentation for Freedom Scientific talking about braille displays with 
>>>>>> an iPhone and I was sitting there thinking about what a stupid idea this 
>>>>>> was to have a braille display hooked up to a phone of all things. I 
>>>>>> remember saying to myself: "Why would anybody want music, email, etc. on 
>>>>>> a phone of all things?" Of course, guess what I have on my iPhone these 
>>>>>> days! I just plain flat didn't get it what things I could do with an 
>>>>>> iPhone. I kept thinking of it as a phone instead of a little bitty 
>>>>>> computer with the ability to make phone calls. I have a blind friend who 
>>>>>> has decided she will an iPhone eventually, but she doesn't get yet 
>>>>>> either. She keeps saying to me: "Well, I can do all that right now." I 
>>>>>> guess she won't get it either until she gets one herself. She would love 
>>>>>> BlindSquare, but she doesn't know it yet. It's a case of finding out you 
>>>>>> wanted something you didn't know you wanted until you got it. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Gigi
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> *grin, seriously addicted grin.
>>>>>>> On 2013-06-27, at 2:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock 
>>>>>>> <filmchenelle1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello  everyone, 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have been an apple I Phone  user  Since  October 31, 209. When I 
>>>>>>>> first purchased  my very  first I Phone 3. g s.  I had never  texted  
>>>>>>>> anyone that I knew with a smart phone. I didn't  have the proper 
>>>>>>>> access  to a smart phone where I could text, send email or instant  
>>>>>>>> messages  let alone  download  music and video content.  Without  
>>>>>>>> having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my brand new I phone 
>>>>>>>> inside  of my hands. I was so elated  with joy I did not know what  to 
>>>>>>>> do with myself  at first. 
>>>>>>>> Now  I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I  not only have an I 
>>>>>>>> phone  4. s. But I have a makdck book  pro and a time capsule along  
>>>>>>>> with an I pad mini and  and finally  I have a Apple TV.  That Is how 
>>>>>>>> invested  in all things apple that I am at the moment. 
>>>>>>>> For the record I will never go back to the Windows  operating system 
>>>>>>>> ever again as long as I live. 
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,  Chenelle 
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