But interaction makes so much more sense.
Its basically telling VO,  this is what I want to focus on, and not like 
windows where it reads you every single thing and half the time you have to 
read it anyway, and with VO you can choose to or not.
Matt Dierckens
matt.dierck...@gmail.com

IOS and Macintosh User support, Windsor area
Sight Substitution Centre

On 2013-08-04, at 7:30 AM, Danny Noonan <da...@familynoonan.net> wrote:

> I'm thinking of Garage band and how often you interact and stop interacting 
> over and over again. There are some key strokes but it's still such a time 
> sink.
> 
> I don't know how it could be done away with fully but better use of 
> interaction by software would certainly make life easier. Have it be more 
> universal across apps both native and third party. Making vo j work in most 
> if not all multi interaction situations. Some times now it's vo j, other 
> times, vo command shift t to switch between tables and other times like in 
> the Sendspace wizard, you have 3 or more levels of interaction and have to 
> move up 2 levels, vo right and then interact in another chain of levels. Arg. 
>  
> 
> I love the mac but this is 1 of those things that makes the experience far 
> sloppier and less consistent and is a major stumbling block on many coming to 
> love using the OS despite its many advantages over windows.
> 
> Danny.
> 
> On 31/07/2013, at 9:03 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I think it is obvious that the interaction deal is one of the most difficult 
>> things that somebody who moves from Windows to Mac needs to deal with. What 
>> is frustrating is that it is not always clear when one needs to interact. 
>> Trial and error and lots of keystrokes and wasted time result. I certainly 
>> do agree that tabbing until your finger falls off isn't the best solution. 
>> But I do wonder if there might not be a more innovative means of  
>> efficiently navigating complex screens. Sometimes, it isn't even clear, for 
>> instance, that you are in a situation where interacting again would yield 
>> more info. I'm thinking of nested tables as an example. VO doesn't always 
>> announce the fact that you have moved into a level 12 or even 3 table or 
>> that you could do so by interacting. Maybe that is a coding issue, not a VO 
>> issue. I do wonder if there are actual blind users who work for Apple who 
>> have experience with other operating systems. I say that not because I want 
>> to see some other approach duplicated, but because I've seen too much tunnel 
>> vision coming from folks whose only experience is with one or another os. 
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>> 
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