Thank you all who responded to my menu extras access shortcut key wows.

It definitely doesn’t work here. I found that I would use it more than the vo 
shortcut key. and I can no longer move along the menu bar with just s
arrow keys, I have to use vo+arrow keys.

Best wishes

Andrew
On 13 Nov 2013, at 07:36, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
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> 
> can't activate the see more link on the facebook mobile site and creating 
> signatures in apple mail [1 Update]
> Focus display and Mavericks [8 Updates]
> VO-J and Mail [1 Update]
> iBooks internal location on the mac? [1 Update]
> Infovox purchases gone [1 Update]
> Is Winamp accessivle on the mac? [3 Updates]
> xcode 5 question [4 Updates]
> Track Changes or Text Attributes with Pages [2 Updates]
> How does one get to menu extra in Maverick? [2 Updates]
> Is it true in Mavericks that iTunes contact syncing has gone? [1 Update]
> Help with Skype [1 Update]
>  can't activate the see more link on the facebook mobile site and creating 
> signatures in apple mail
> Andrew Head <ath...@bigpond.net.au> Nov 13 06:33PM +1100  
> 
> Hi all,
> When I get to the end of a facebook page, the see more link comes up as a 
> heading instead of a link and I can’t activate it. Just wondering what’s 
> going on here and how to fix it?
>  
> also, how do you create a signature in apple mail?
> Andrew
>  
>  Focus display and Mavericks
> Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> Nov 12 04:27PM -0500  
> 
> Okay, I look and I don't see some things that seem to be rather importatn. 
> For example, if you are wanting to switch from one open app to another, how 
> do you do it with the display. Are you using a keyboard along with the 
> display?
>  
> Kristeen
>  
>  
> Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> Nov 12 01:58PM -0800  
> 
> Admittedly, yes, I’m also using a keyboard. My opinion is that you’ll 
> probably have to do quite a lot of customizing to use a Braille display as a 
> primary keyboard.
>  
> For switching apps, I’d probably map a braille keystroke to VO-applications 
> list. (VO-f1 twice quickly)I don’t think there’s an easy way to map one to 
> command-tab.
>  
> HtH,
> Teresa
>  
> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
>  
>  
> Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> Nov 12 04:10PM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
> Teresa is correct, you have to do a lot of customizing in order to get your 
> focus display to work as your keyboard. Unfortunately, you will have to use 
> your keyboard more than you would like to. That's just the nature of the 
> beast.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> Nov 12 05:00PM -0600  
> 
> True duys, but I know I can get to the menu with my braille display. I c' 
> remember how to do it on a Focus 40 although I had one. Can anyone remember 
> what the braille keyboard command is for going to the menu and using left and 
> right arrows. I found that useful when I was somewhat away from my computer. 
> On my Braille Edge, it has some keys on it that will bring up Spotlight and 
> the menus and the dock. That may help some. For instance, space dd sign will 
> bring up the dock. Space question mark will let you interact and space low j 
> will stop interacting. Do you have a list of braille key commands that are 
> already in place? 
>  
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
>  
>  
> Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> Nov 12 03:18PM -0800  
> 
> It’s s-chord (dots 2-3-4-space). I just use the panning keys to display 
> different areas of the menu bar, and then use the cursor-routing keys on the 
> item I want. sometimes this doesn’t work, and I have to use dot 4-chord and 
> dot 1-chord to navigate through the menus
>  
> HtH,
> teresa
>  
> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
>  
>  
> Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> Nov 12 11:08PM -0500  
> 
> Thanks,. This info does help. Can you tell me how I can sellect text? I've 
> not been successful.
>  
> Kristeen
>  
> Ben van Poppel <benvanpop...@gmail.com> Nov 13 04:26PM +1100  
> 
> Hi Kristeen, Teresa and the rest. The workaround I did for single-keystroke 
> app switching was to write two scripts to simulate command-tab and 
> command-shift-tab respectively. Then I assigned running of the scripts to 
> focus commands (I used 12-chord and 45-chord). The scripts had one line each:
> Tell application "System Events" to keystroke "tab" using command down
>  
> Tell application "System Events" to keystroke "tab" using {command down shift 
> down}
>  
> In the examples above the "tab" means double quote then press tab then double 
> quote again. \t might also be valid. I'm still not applescript proficient.
>  
> Hope that trick helps you out.
>  
> Cheers. Ben 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> Nov 12 09:41PM -0800  
> 
> Hi, Kristeen,
>  
> This is the sort of thing that I meant when I mentioned customization. WHAT 
> you’d have to do is go into your Braille settings, go to the display tab, 
> choose “assign commands", and assign a Braille command to select text. There 
> aren’t separate commands for selecting different amounts of text, so 
> honestly, I’m not sure how you’d do this. Also, unless I’m wrong, you’d have 
> to use command-b on the keyboard to initiate the Braille command entry. I 
> haven’t assigned keystrokes for this, because frankly, it’s more trouble than 
> it’s worth to me. Let’s see if anyone else has already done this, and if not, 
> I’ll experiment with it and let you know what I come up with. I admit I have 
> my doubts that it’ll be an easy process.
>  
> HtH,
> Teresa
>  
> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
>  
>  
>  VO-J and Mail
> Janet Ingber <janet.ing...@gmail.com> Nov 12 11:16PM -0500  
> 
> Hello Everyone,
>  
> When I use VO-J to jump from the message list to an individual email,a few 
> lines are read and then without my doing anything, I’m back in the messages 
> table. This does not only happen with my Gmail account. I am using the 
> default mail view and I have not made any changes. This behavior started a 
> few days ago. Any suggestions?
>  
> Thanks,
> Janet
>  
>  iBooks internal location on the mac?
> Kliphton ------- <kliphton....@outlook.com> Nov 12 09:44PM -0600  
> 
> Hello. I have imported about 700 books in ePub format in to iBooks. They
> read just fine, but I accidently deleted the folder where I originally
> imported them from. Where does iBooks store them so I can try to save them
> to a different folder for my own reference? Thanks.
>  
> Kliphton
> ~iMessage&Email~ kliphton....@outlook.com
> ~Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype~ kliphton72
> ~Text only~ 914-820-2298
> "Personal blog-read at your own risk!" http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com
>  
>  Infovox purchases gone
> "Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr." <freethau...@gmail.com> Nov 12 10:12PM -0500  
> 
> I get a message that reads 
>  
> "this is an evaluation version of Acapela text to speech synthesizer."
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  Is Winamp accessivle on the mac?
> Rob <musicmaker...@gmail.com> Nov 12 05:37PM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
> Have any of you tried winamp for the Mac?
> Thanks,
> Rob
> You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
> 206-426-3505
> "God is good all the time, & All the time God is good"
>  
> Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> Nov 13 12:19PM +1100  
> 
> hey,
> sadly no, i tryed out the mac version and there is just nothing you can do in 
> the program. i don’t think winamp is even beeing made for the mac from what i 
> have read.
>  
> Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> Nov 12 07:33PM -0600  
> 
> Would not recommend it. Nothing like the windows version.
>  
>  
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>  
>  
>  xcode 5 question
> "Littlefield, Tyler" <ty...@tysdomain.com> Nov 11 02:06PM -0500  
> 
> Helloo:
> Thanks a lot for the info. When it says I have a new window, I have no 
> way of getting to that window. presumably that's where the variable gets 
> its name and everything. Does the window just pop up, or do you need to 
> do something special to get there?
> Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it.
> On 11/11/2013 2:01 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>  
> -- 
> Take care,
> Ty
> http://tds-solutions.net
> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that 
> dares not reason is a slave.
>  
> "Littlefield, Tyler" <ty...@tysdomain.com> Nov 11 04:05PM -0500  
> 
> I think I may have figured out the issue. with xcode 5 apparently you 
> are supposed to control+drag, which draws a blue line. clicking and 
> holding down doesn't work, because I don't get the blue line. Is there a 
> way to control+drag with voiceover?
> On 11/11/2013 2:01 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>  
> -- 
> Take care,
> Ty
> http://tds-solutions.net
> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that 
> dares not reason is a slave.
>  
> "Littlefield, Tyler" <ty...@tysdomain.com> Nov 11 06:40PM -0500  
> 
> It appears this method does not work for me as well. I drag and drop and 
> hear 'xcode has new window" and that's that. nothing happens and we're 
> back to square 1.
> On 11/11/2013 6:32 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>  
> -- 
> Take care,
> Ty
> http://tds-solutions.net
> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that 
> dares not reason is a slave.
>  
> "Littlefield, Tyler" <ty...@tysdomain.com> Nov 11 02:06PM -0500  
> 
> Hello:
> sorry for the double message. Yes, in my routing step I did mean route 
> the mouse to the voiceover cursor. I just mixed the two up.
> Thanks again,
> On 11/11/2013 2:01 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>  
> -- 
> Take care,
> Ty
> http://tds-solutions.net
> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that 
> dares not reason is a slave.
>  
>  Track Changes or Text Attributes with Pages
> Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Nov 12 11:05PM +0100  
> 
> Hello Ibraheem,
>  
> In the new Pages, if you stop interacting with everything, the second item on 
> the page is the Change tracking and annotations toolbar group. Interact with 
> this and click the Next button the changed text will be highlighted. You can 
> read it with VO-F6 and decide what to do about it.
>  
> If you’re using the old version of Pages, you really need a Braille display 
> to see the changes.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
> then 
>  
>  
> Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Nov 12 11:15PM +0100  
> 
> Hello Nic,
>  
> Tracking changes is working much better in the new version of Pages. It tells 
> you whether the change is an addition or a deletion, but I haven’t yet 
> figured out how to find formatting changes.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
>  How does one get to menu extra in Maverick?
> Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> Nov 12 01:53PM -0800  
> 
> Odd. control-f8 works fine for me in Mavericks. This is the standard non-VO 
> keystroke. For that matter, VO-m twice quickly also works. Sometimes the 
> menus balk when a program is hanging, though.
>  
> HtH,
> Teresa
>  
> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
>  
>  
> Barry Hadder <bhad...@gmail.com> Nov 12 04:13PM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I have run into that situation several times where control-f8 doesn’t work 
> with Mavericks. I’ve found that when it doesn’t work, I have to restart to 
> git it back. I have no idea what causes this. It is true that you can git to 
> the status menus with vo-m twice, but you can’t move through the menus with 
> the arrow keys, and sometimes that’s useful.
>  
> The Finder keystrokes you mention work the same in Mavericks. At least, they 
> are for me.
>  
>  
> On Nov 12, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Andrew Lamanche <andrew.laman...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>  
> Dear Listers,
>  
> I’ve just upgraded to Mavericks. The very first thing I’ve noticed is that 
> the command ctrl+f8 to activate the menu extra no longer works. Nor can I 
> open a folder with command down arrow or command + o. It has to be now 
> command + shift + o. Is that right?
>  
> Andrew
>  
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>  Is it true in Mavericks that iTunes contact syncing has gone?
> Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> Nov 12 04:12PM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
> Yes, it is gone. They want you to eat sync your contacts with iCloud, which 
> quite honestly, I think everybody should do. But that's just my opinion.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
>  Help with Skype
> Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> Nov 12 04:58PM -0500  
> 
> Ok, so I get that Skype changed a bunch of stuff recently and I can no longer 
> access Skype on my iPhone as they seem to have gotten rid of logging in 
> through Facebook. I am able to log in to Skype on my computer through 
> Facebook, but can't seem to find any way to change my password so I can 
> access Skype on my iPhone. I used the Skype desktop app to take me to the 
> website to mange my account, clicked change password but this seems to take 
> me to an inaccessible screen as I get the heading for Change Password but 
> then there is nothing to interact with. Anyone know how to log in to Skype on 
> your iPhone when your account was created through logging in to Facebook on 
> the desktop? Thanks
>  
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