Really?! How did you pull that off installing Windows with no sighted 
assistance? Is there a step by step directions for a blind user that can 
install Windows? I searched everywhere on Google, and I can’t find anything. Or 
I’m just not looking at the right place.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> Daniel,
> If you use fusion, you won’t need sighted assistance.  You can either use a 
> physical dvd if you have one or an iso file.
> 
> things can get hairy after the installation of windows before you get any 
> speech loaded, though.  This is my experience, anyway.  I have an 
> installation of win 7 right now and I can’t get past the darn log in screen 
> using narrater, but this is my only choice  til I can get the desk top 
> visible.
> Anyway, good luck!
> Caitlyn
> 
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Daniel Hawkins <computersassocia...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Chris,
>> 
>> Thanks for that info. I was told when I got my Mac that Virtual box was not 
>> access able, so that why I used Bootcamp to dual boot. But thanks for 
>> pointing out that Fusion is fully accessible. So maybe later on I will try 
>> that out wen I want to learn Windows 8.
>> 
>> Does anyone know how to install Windows on their own if you are completely 
>> blind? I take it installation is same when you use a virtual box?
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps 
>>> which emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you launch 
>>> one of those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your bidding. Most 
>>> people use them to load Windows on but you can load an OS that normally 
>>> will run on a generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine is only as accessible 
>>> as the OS normally would be on real hardware. Of course there is some 
>>> overhead so things won't run 100% the speed that they would on dedicated 
>>> hardware, but for most things that isn't an issue. For example, if you had 
>>> a virtual windows machine running Office, and you went to save a file. 
>>> Office would pass the data to Windows to write to the disk but really the 
>>> Windows code would be writing to what seems like a disk drive which is 
>>> actually the virtual machine emulator which writes to a file on OSX. That 
>>> little bit of redirection makes everything work but costs some CPU. 
>>> VirtualBox is free but the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you can 
>>> control it fully from the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible 
>>> as is but costs a few bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special 
>>> running). Parallels is not free and is also not accessible so you can 
>>> ignore it. Also, it's Mac only while virtual machines made with VMWare can 
>>> also run under VMWare Player on Windows and Linux. When I say accessible, 
>>> that means the virtual machine app itself where you tell how much memory to 
>>> give to the virtual PC and such. As previously mentioned, Windows under 
>>> VMWare, for instance, will be just as accessible (or not) as it would be 
>>> running on a real Dell box. If you must have every last bit of speed you 
>>> can set up bootcamp which boots your Mac into Windows so Windows has direct 
>>> access to the hardware. I haven't tried this but reviews I've read said 
>>> that the current MacBooks make a nice high-end windows laptop. The downside 
>>> is you have to do some setup     to boot in either Mac or Windows 'mode' 
>>> and switching from one to the other requires a reboot. With virtual 
>>> machines they are just an app you launch, use and quit. So you can, for 
>>> example, copy paste from your AppleMail into a Windows app or vice versa. 
>>> Things are also a bit more contained because the virtual machine hard drive 
>>> is just a file on the OSX side. So if you got some nasty Windows virus that 
>>> formatted your hard drive, all it could touch is that virtual hard drive, 
>>> not your entire Mac drive.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>>>> Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible. That’s 
>>>> why I did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac.
>>>> 
>>>> I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too?
>>>> 
>>>> My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two.
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for these 
>>>> virtual app?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>>> 
>>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>>>> 4GB DDR3
>>>> 500GB HDD
>>>> 
>>>> Dual Boot:
>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Littlefield, Tyler <ty...@tysdomain.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Technically it pretty much allows you to install any OS you want. Windows 
>>>>> is the most widely used, but it's also useful for running linux/bsd 
>>>>> instances.
>>>>> On 12/29/2013 2:32 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>>>>> Fusion is a virtualization program that will let you install and run 
>>>>>> Windows on your Mac is completely accessible. the other one that isn't 
>>>>>> is called parallels.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
>>>>>> <computersassocia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’m very new to list, and still very new to screen readers and Macs.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was wondering what is VMFusion? Is a virtual program for Windows?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From what I can understand, I thought emulators or virtual programs is 
>>>>>>> not accessible? Or is there an solution?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>>>>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>>>>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>>>>>>> 4GB DDR3
>>>>>>> 500GB HDD
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dual Boot:
>>>>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Littlefield, Tyler <ty...@tysdomain.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> oooo thanks a ton for these  links, that's awesome.
>>>>>>>> Also: virtualbox is just a virtualization solution. I have 16 gb ram, 
>>>>>>>> so I figured I'd give 4 of that to a bsd box so I could test my 
>>>>>>>> libraries and that on BSD as well.
>>>>>>>> HTH:
>>>>>>>> On 12/29/2013 9:37 AM, Regina Alvarado wrote:
>>>>>>>>> What do you do with a virtual box? Curious is all.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> reggie and Allegra
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/create-virtualbox-vm-from-the-command-line.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://nakkaya.com/2012/08/30/create-manage-virtualBox-vms-from-the-command-line/
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>>> On 29 Dec 2013, at 02:59, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> That is very true, and a good point. Unfortunately, I was never able 
>>>>>>>>>> to find any tutorials or even manuals for getting started with the 
>>>>>>>>>> command line interface to Virtualbox. Still, it is definitely worth 
>>>>>>>>>> looking into.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought Virtualbox was controllable through the terminal so you 
>>>>>>>>>>> don't have to use the GUI. From the manual:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> "VBoxManage is the command-line interface to VirtualBox. With it, 
>>>>>>>>>>> you can completely control VirtualBox from the command line of your 
>>>>>>>>>>> host operating system. VBoxManage supports all the features that 
>>>>>>>>>>> the graphical user interface gives you access to, but it supports a 
>>>>>>>>>>> lot more than that. It exposes really all the features of the 
>>>>>>>>>>> virtualization engine, even those that cannot (yet) be accessed 
>>>>>>>>>>> from the GUI."
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It's free so why not give it a try.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/28/13 2:06 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fusion is $60 last I checked, at least for a personal license. No, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> virtualbox is not at all accessible. Someone once posted a quick 
>>>>>>>>>>>> tutorial on using it to set up a VM on Windows which you'd then 
>>>>>>>>>>>> import to the Mac. Still, when I gave it a try, audio in the vm 
>>>>>>>>>>>> was extremely low and nothing I did would bring it up. I find 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fusion to be better, plus, of course, the preferences and other 
>>>>>>>>>>>> settings are accessible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Littlefield, Tyler 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ty...@tysdomain.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hello:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick question. I don't have the $100 something for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vmware fusion, but I wanted to install BSD on my IMac. Anyone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know if virtualbox is accessible, or if there are other choices?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ty
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tds-solutions.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Toaster (tm).
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