Another funny thing I notice some days with gmail in mac mail is some days when 
I open a message I hear empty scroll area and it takes a few seconds to find 
the content of a message. Other days this doesn't happen at all. Very strange. 
On Feb 6, 2014, at 8:00 AM, BBS <bbssh...@samobile.net> wrote:

> Hi Alex. I completely agree with you. When I had gmail with an email client 
> on Windows, I had issues on there too. This is why I switched email accounts, 
> because Gmail has proven to me that it has become unreliable. I might even 
> set up an iCloud account because this provider is blocking some emails from 
> going through. These emails are newsletters from PSX Extreme and NBA Daily. 
> So yeah, my ultimate goal is to eliminate Gmail altogether.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> 
> On Feb 5, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> While I hate to switch email providers just because Apple can't get their 
>> act together, I must say it is looking tempting. I've found oddities using 
>> Mac Mail and Gmail together, of course, but from what I've read in the past, 
>> it isn't just the Mac. Gmail uses its "labels" system in place of folders, 
>> as well as the idea of archiving, which never works well with pure IMAP 
>> accounts. You can jump through hoops to get things set up, but it is not as 
>> easy as just enabling the account on a new device.
>> 
>> As to Gmail causing your problems, what happens if you run with Mail closed 
>> for a couple days? Open it when you need it, but as soon as you check mail, 
>> close the app. If the problems with sluggishness and choppy speech go away, 
>> you know you've found the culprit.
>> 
>> I don't think Apple lied in this case. They pushed an update to fix major 
>> bugs, and it turns out there are smaller ones their beta testing missed. It 
>> happens all the time. Are they above lying? No, they are a huge company with 
>> a bottom line to protect. Did they lie here? Personally, I don't think so, 
>> but that's just me.
>> 
>> --
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 5, 2014, at 4:10 PM, matthew Dyer <matthew.dy...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> i,
>>> 
>>> This is why I am no longer using gmail as my primary email service.   I am 
>>> now using cloud and have no problems and iCloud seems more reliable.  HTH.
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2014, at 12:16 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Every day it is something new with Gmail and MacMail, and no, a clean 
>>>> install isn't going to fix a thing. At least Apple finally admitted there 
>>>> is still a problem. What really annoys me is that Apple turns out is like 
>>>> every other company they lie. I waited to install Mavericks until Apple 
>>>> claimed they had fixed the problem which they claimed they did in December.
>>>> 
>>>> So everything was working fine yesterday, I didn't turn my computer off or 
>>>> put it to sleep, and bingo this morning, half my emails are missing from 
>>>> gmail, and I think the sluggishness and VoiceOver choppiness is caused by 
>>>> gmail constantly searching making safari unusable at times, and the same 
>>>> with iTunes. Not sure if there is anything I could do, but this 
>>>> instability of Mavericks and one day the computer working and the next not 
>>>> reminds me of Windows. I hope this isn't the future of Apple releasing 
>>>> buggy updates. Very disappointing.
>>>> 
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