> ----- Original message ----- > From: "Quim Gil" <[email protected]> > To: "List for community development" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Brainstorm: useful? > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:16:27 +0200 > > > > > ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > >> Similarly, there's no chance of persuasion and debate. Mailing lists > >> are a much more powerful tool, IMHO. > > A mailing list can be a powerful to brainstorm about one topic. How much > an you scale before it collapses, though? > > Currently the Brainstorm forum has > > Threads: 107 | Posts: 1,463 > > Yes, there are mailing lists that can afford such traffic and much more, > there are good filtering tactics, and etc. All this tends to a setting > where a very engaged and qualified minority can handle well the process, > leaving all the rest outside. > > The current Brainstorm/Talk forum (unfinished until there is an > automatic integration) has an opposite risk of dispersion, but offers > clearly better entry points to anybody. > > I believe brainstorm (even without the Talk discussion) help > summarizing, where we are. You can forget about a proposal, go back in 3 > months and still get a quick idea of where are we more or less. > > For instance: > http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/watching_brainstorm/ > > Instead, if an intense debate in a mailing list goes quiet for 3 > months... good luck with the recovery. You rely on people's memories or > on your own time going through the thread again. For instance: is it > clear for everybody what should we do to improve the QA process? > Immediate actions for Niels, for instance? > > Sorry for not providing success stories, but the Brainstorm is still > missing core features so I'm not surprised about not having them yet. > > -- > Quim Gil
I have to agree with Quim here. There is no perfect solution nor will there be, so we develop and use whatever causes the least harm sometimes-- with the goal of course of also getting value out. To that point there ARE success stories despite claims to the contrary. Maemo Greeters, if I may be so bold, was a runaway success and was fleshed out as a Brainstorm (which continued into the pilot). Of course, it also proves the point about dedicated individuals being better equipped to implement solutions than a mob-- but implementation is just part of the process. We still need the mob to contribute to the storming (albeit to a point, which is the job of a facilitator to identify). I get the feeling some are suggesting the baby be thrown out with the bathwater here... but a shaky fledgling process does not invalidate the goal. In this case, I believe it points to a need to refine that process, and we've been doing that. Like with this thread. ; ) Randall (Randy) Arnold maemo.org community council http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com/ > -------------------------------------------------------------- Ovi Mail: Simple and user-friendly interface http://mail.ovi.com _______________________________________________ maemo-community mailing list [email protected] https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
