---- Jeremiah Foster <[email protected]> wrote:
>1. The source code (which we have since it has a Free Software license.)
>2. The name maemo.org (need to secure this from Nokia.)
>3. The repos and infrastructure that allow maemo.org to get work done, 
>includes forums.

Jeremiah, while I agree with a lot of the direction you're indicating, 
including those around Debian.org, I think you're a little off on some this.  
Honestly, I don't care if I have to re-point my repo to rhymedwithego.org, as 
long as it has the _content_, the name is really not super important.  It would 
be *nice* to secure the name, but if that's a deal breaker on Nokia's side, 
it's not a game-ender on ours.

As for source, it's not all open, and that does present a problem.  Getting 
permission to post *unmodified* copies of binary blobs (including fiasco 
images) is something we'll need to do, and that may not be a trivial effort.  
Yes, people can archive them on their own for personal use, but hosting them 
publicly is another matter.  I think it's something we really should have on 
hand at the new "home base" though.  Not a game ender, but I think a vital key 
we should work hard to secure.

I'd also like to include in #3 tools that are critical to development, like the 
autobuilder.  I'm sure you had that in mind when crafting it, but that one in 
particular needs to be called out.

I do agree it would be best to find a way to continue (maybe share) funding of 
the existing homes for these systems, as that would cause the least 
disturbance.  I also like the idea of re-camping it in a new home, including 
the idea of merging back in (to some degree) with Debian if that's possible.  I 
would like to see both of those options explored.  Even if Nokia comes forward 
tomorrow and says they'll fund it until 2020, the corporate world is 
unpredictable.  Anyone with a Zune or an Audry, or Madden 09 even, knows that 
corporations can vanish, or just stop service randomly on a whim.  It's 
happened, and while Nokia has historically been very good about giving due 
notice, there's no guarantees out there.  Especially as we approach (pass?) the 
1-year mark from the launch in India.

Randall Arnold <[email protected]> wrote:
>I don't see that sort of verbiage as helping the dialog. 

I would agree to a limited degree.  While I'm not a fan of the "name calling", 
I think it's an important topic to address.  There has been (and continues to 
be) a strong presence in the forum of pro-MeeGo, anti-Maemo people.  The main 
goal of which seems to be a desire to siphon off developers and mind-share from 
this project to their own.  Their goals are served better if Maemo has this 
final nail driven into the existing coffin.  That's a reality that needs to be 
clearly on the table when discussing who, how, and when these issues get 
decided.  Those not participating as much in the forums may have missed that, 
so informing them of that reality here is important.

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