> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of ext Dave Neuer
> Sent: 04 May, 2006 23:39
> To: Kothari Devesh (Nokia-M/Tampere)
> Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
> Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not
> complaining
> 
> 
> On 5/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, since you brought up "truely open product" and "expectation
> > > management," what are Nokia's expectations about when the 
> 770 will be
> > > a truely open product (i.e., I can run all free software 
> on the device
> > >
> > Maemo 2.0 would take it closer, with real package 
> management. It is even today
> > an open product, you can get root and install whatever you 
> want today :) but
> > remember the hardware limitations of the device itself :)
> >
> > > without losing any functionality)?
> > can you be more specific ???
> 
> I can remove all software for which I cannot access and re-publish the
> source code and all of the hardware capabilities (power management,
> DSP and whatever other little doodads Nokia packed in there) are still
> accessible; I can compile a kernel and a corresponding initfs and root
> fs from source. Etc.

Those are the goals but i have to admit we have not yet reached there. We are
working on most parts e.g you can compile your own kernel, create your custom 
rootfs,
remove stuff etc with package management. There are still certain piecies which 
are
either not in our direct control (e.g TI/DSP related stuff), and some which we
just cant give out (e.g battery related software).

The important thing i believe is still to work with (work around;) limitations, 
and strive towards abstraction and generic architecture which would enable to 
make maemo more extensible, adaptable and customizable for different hardware 
configuration (though for the moment we pretty much product driven and that 
takes the priority, BUT i firmly believe that community with its experience can 
really help on this front), remember Nokia 770 is NOT
a kind of reference platform :) for us

For us it is important to strive a balance at product creation and at the same
time persue the openness goal

Rome was not built in a day :)
cheers
Devesh

> 
> Dave
> 
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